let me give a little more infor here. Okay mac os 10.1, power pc g3 233, 160 megs of mem, browser test worked. found my mottorola router number on the page and changed to manual port and restarted and still says connecting but won't connect. I belive this is limewire 4.8 i am using. my isp does not block the gnuetella network and the browser test worked fine. I can just can't figure out what it is. I hope I gave a little more info this time for you to help me.