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Old December 25th, 2012
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hi all
got my daughter goodmans karaoke machine for xmas which supports cd+g discs

got a load of songs for her they are in .mpg and .cdg file format per song

ive used power cd+g burner to burn the .cdg file (i doesnt accept the mp3 file)
and its all burnt fine.. lowerst speed etc

but when i put into the machine i get the music playing but the screen is just showing a big rectangle block of fuzzy graphics and not the lyrics.

i checked my buner drive and it does support cd+g and also tried differnt brands of cd-r (supermarket brand to maxell XL-II-80) which arnt the cheapest. All have the same result. ive tried 3/4 different songs all the same.

ive also tried converting to a .bin and burning that to a disc but doesnt play but if i put the disc with the .bin back in pc and use power cd+g player. it plays fine.

please help i have a very disapointed little girl on xmas day .
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i burned a cd+g but when i play it back where the lyrics are i just got scrambled graphics. anyone know why? audio plays fine
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to add
ive used power cd+g burner to burn the .cdg file (i doesnt accept the mp3 file)
and its all burnt fine.. lowerst speed etc

but when i put into the machine i get the music playing but the screen is just showing a big rectangle block of fuzzy graphics and not the lyrics.


i checked my buner drive and it does support cd+g and also tried differnt brands of cd-r (supermarket brand to maxell XL-II-80) which arnt the cheapest. All have the same result. ive tried 3/4 different songs all the same.

ive also tried converting to a .bin and burning that to a disc but doesnt play but if i put the disc with the .bin back in pc and use power cd+g player. it plays fine.

however when i put the disc back into pc and play using power cd+g player. it plays fine. so i know the disc is fine.

do you think its the player ? or doesnt like the cd-r? i tried supermarket brands also had some maxell CD-R is sealed cases (so they werent cheap media) both same result..

please help i have a very disapointed little girl on xmas day .
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My hugest apologies, when I saw you post a link to an online store I thought it was spam and reacted and removed that thread (our spam filter also prevented some of your posts from being shown.) Been busy with spammers over past 36 hours across Christmas so was a little too trigger happy and over-reacted, sorry again.

Sounds to me like the player's issue. Do you have a DVD player with CD-G abilities? My DVD player has that ability, not a well known brand so it gives more abilities for a heap less $ than the known brands who want you to pay lots more for pitiful more abilities for their so-called premium versions but are still more limited than the DVD player I bought.

One thing you can do is go into stores that sell karaoke machines and see which ones will play your CD-G.
Before I bought my last DVD player I took various CD and DVD types into the store and tried them out before I chose which one to buy. The so-called known brands turned out to be 'rubbish' in comparison to the one I found which could play all the disks. Yet it cost a fraction of the price of the known brands premium DVD players which had less abilities. It's all marketing, and the big brands will try to sell you limited ability devices at premium prices. If you want better they want you to wait until they release their next premium model for a small improvement. pfft

In your scenario, if you find a player that can play what you want, then go back to the store and say the player you bought does not do what it says it can when other players can. I am not sure about business laws in your country but in my country you would have a right to take the item back because it does not do what it promised. The store should at least restore the credit you paid so you can put that toward the brand+model you want.
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hi thanks for the reply looks like i may have to try another player.. i dont have any bought cd-g to try as player didnt come with any.

when i put the cd-r in my pc and look in windows explorer they just show as cd audio tracks. however they were bunt using power +g and using the .cdg file.

unfortunatly looks like my pc drive is only one that supports cd+g when i put them into my home system bluray / dvd player it just plays the audio track (like it would a normal music cd)

my daughters desperate to sing barbie girl lol shes only 3

i did read that they should be burnt as .bin files i did try this but it didnt work at all.. .
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all sorted
machine was faulty. got another machine today came with demo disc put that in goodmans was all corrupt so set new machine up tried demo disc worked ok then tried my cd-r and that worked ok aswell so looks like goodmans disc drive is faulty so it will be going back.. new machone a lot nicer also tho £20 more expensive.
(i now have a sore throat being the man from barbie girl)
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I am glad to hear and thanks for letting us know. You should not have problems returning the item I should imagine, hopefully totally reimbursed.
£20 as a sacrifice I guess, but probably totally worth it. And I'm sure she's happy.

Glad all is sorted and best wishes for the coming new year.
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yep all sorted now. got about 200 songs to play with also now..
one quick question.. how many tracks can i get on a cd? is it same as music cd. ie 80mins of songs on a 80min cd-r?
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I am not sure of the answer.

Are they the equivalent of mp3's? If yes, then probably somewhere between 300-400 minutes worth depending on the bit-rate of the particular songs.

Otherwise approximately 79 minutes 50 seconds worth. It's my guess this will be the more likely outcome.

A few ways to check, one is to put the CD into your computer and if it looks like a regular audio CD then that's how it will be. Open the disk on your computer and check the individual file-sizes. Keeping in mind non-compressed audio uses up approximately 10 MB/minute. And mp3's somewhere between 1-3 MB/minute.

I have never used karaoke disks. However many, many years ago Apple did have a software that could create the equivalent of karaoke song files that worked with QuickTime. These were the equivalent of non-compressed audio. AFAIK commercial audio disks that include lyrics and other metadata are non-compressed, similar to a standard CD.

According to Karaoke on Wikipedia, the earliest Karaoke disks were equivalent to VCD's which makes sense, since that is the approach Apple used. So held as many songs as a standard audio-CD. However, CD+G disks are a little different.

According to CD+G seems to be equivalent to a standard audio CD. Sort of a combo between an Audio CD and a CD-ROM.

There are also mp3 karaoke disks but I do not know if these will play in a karaoke machine because they were originally designed for computer use. Perhaps some karaoke machines can play them, I don't know.

All other googling on the answer suggests the answer is 70 minutes for a CD+G disk. Although one site suggested a maximum of 20 songs, this might have been a limitation with their particular cdg software.

With any luck, anybody who does use Karaoke disks will respond to your query to clarify.

I grabbed this from an FAQ of one site:

CDG
Used by professional KJs, this format will display graphics on a screen when used with a karaoke machine. A CDG karaoke disc will play the backing tracks in a normal CD player. (* this suggests same as a standard audio CD for length !)

DVD
If you want to play the music and see the words on your TV but don't have a karaoke machine choose this format.

MP3+G
Used by professional KJs and singers alike. The download contains two files, a MP3 backing track and a graphics file. You can use karaoke software to play the track on your computer or create your own CDG karaoke disc.

MP4
If you want to use your iPod or iPhone to play karaoke tracks choose this format. It will also play on your computer using Media Player or similar software.
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