As a lady once sang,

"It ain't the meat,
It's the motion..."

Well, that's not really what I mean, but I sure got your attention, uh ?

My point is simple...

Too me, Phex is it as far as respecting the intelligence of the user... as BS was before...
The old page was a lot more down that lane, if you get my meaning...
What was needed to be known was presented on the first screen...

This IS important... The basic initial questions covered on page 1...

Now, when the hell is LotR going to move Phex to the top of the client forum display list here ??? Just above BS, (old), of course !!!

And that LW thing of yore ?
Bottom, please ?

There are some reasones for the redesign. A few of them:

1. The Phex Website is mostly visited by new users. Their questions need to be answered as quickly as possible.
2. We want to switch to a new content management system.
3. We want a description of Phex on the first page.
4. I like doing webdesign, and I think I can make the website more accessible and interesting with a redesign.


But as you write it:

The basic initial questions I see:
* Screenshots (almost always the first click)
* What does it do?
* Where can I get it?
* What's New?
* Where can I find out more?

And what's important for us: "Where can I join?".

What are the basic initial questions for you?

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

I updated the draft:
- Phex - take back p2p

Better?

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

Please have a look at it and tell me what you think...

If it's OK, I'd like to go to drupal and produce the content as soon as possible.

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

For things which need improvement I think I also need a bit of advice, since I'm kinda stuck. I know that there are things which need improvements, but I don't "see" how they would look better, so I don't manage to get the website to look better.

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

...er, sorry, a_b...
My same comments apply.
To me, the existing pages are still superior.
And, the narrow column look just means a lot more scrolling for nada !
Please believe that I am NOT being 'negative'... To the contrary... I think the 'old' version is of a very high standard. Very high !!!

Do you think it would be better then to just recreate the old layout in the new content management system?

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

Sorry for my slow response. I tend to agree with Ursula. The old design certainly had its own character & attractiveness. Perhaps some kind of a compromise between the two (with more emphasis on the original design) if you feel it needs to be changed.

Then I'll rather just copy all of the old design (where I can - the navigation bar to the left might be a bit harder to copy).

It's far less work then merging.

Maybe we can use the new design for Phex Weblogs or similar.

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

looking at the site :

new site have an fresher look , i like that
For me i wanna see a site where i dont have to scroll down too much .

New menu on the new site should have an download button also .

The home page : i would like to see there the news pageand home page in one page .

Because the lack of news : i advice you to create an download option for an svn version of phex every week .an new one ......

The New home page have a lot of information new users probally wont read , so in a few words write down the benefits of phex or : Why should we use phex and not another client ....write down the strong points....

just some things i think of when i read and look at the new site......

Would you like to create the weekly Phex?

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

I finally found one of the main problems.

My Konqueror by default uses "URW Palladio L" as font, and I didn't translate this into the CSS (where I had a typo which kept teh font-family tag from being used). Firefox instead uses a font which just doesn't look as well at the given size.

So I now changed the font to "URW Palladio L". Could you please check, if it is avaible for your platform?

Mostly this means: Could you test the font on firefox in Windows?

Phex - take back p2p

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

Please attach screenshots how the new design looks in your browser.

This one is taken in Konqueror (quality somewhat reduced by jpeg compression).

Attached Images

Phex-Website-new-design-2007-12-03.jpg (86.6 KB, 3 views)

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

Besides: If the site doesn't look like my screenshot in your browser, could you check if you can find a font on your system which resembles the one in the screenshot?

__________________

-> put this banner into your own signature! <-
--
Erst im Spiel lebt der Mensch.
Nur ludantaj homoj vivas.
GnuFU.net - Gnutella For Users
Draketo.de - Shortstories, Poems, Music and strange Ideas.

The snapshot doesn't do it justice. The font looks a lot better & easier to read now.
Looks like you retained the same font for the Welcome to Phex. I know it's only a draft but check your spelling. ... available