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Old August 20th, 2004
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Default Is this the norm??

Ok.. Are there others that feel the same? Do you feel that the upgrade to pro cut down on the "awaiting" and "waiting" I have 24 things I have been "awaiting" downloads or been "waiting" for downloads on for almost a month now. On average I get 2 downloads in a 24 hour period and it doesn't matter if their dsl, cable, t1 or modem, how many stars there are and all where clicked on within minutes of the search coming up.. At this rate I will still be "awaiting" downloads at Christmas and as I add more I don't want to know when they'll be done. I don't ever remember having this much of a problem getting things to download last year..
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Post Please Read

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Originally posted by cronotrigger913
OK, I'm new to these forums, so I apologize if this problem has already been addressed.

When downloading, I will pick a song to download, but it says I need more sources, but the list of songs was generated a second ago. The source is right there! Also, while downloading a song, mostly on modem connections from other users, the downloading will just stop and then tell me that it is waiting for busy hosts, but shouldn't I be the one using the uploading slots from that user instead of waiting, I was downloading from them first. For reference, my version is the 4.1.3 beta version. Thanks for the help.

Please look at the following thread

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...ight=busy+host

Hope this helps.
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Old August 20th, 2004
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Post Re: Download Search problems

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Originally posted by boo_hoooo
OK. This gives me joy, I too have the same problem. I do a search and before it's done try to do a 4 star download from multiple people and get told I have to find more sources. If I go and do a search again the same one pops up as available and yet I can't get a download off it. It doesen't come up busy. Though of late I am getting a tone of the "waiting for busy hosts" for like 4 or 6 hours and then their off line. Is there a way to expand bandwith or something that will help speed up my downloads when these folks are on line?? I have stuff that's almost 2 weeks old that is only downloading maybe 3% a time when they log on. Is this what pro is supposed to help with? I mean with having a cable modem I don't feel like my download times should be so slow or have so many probelms. Especially when I think that most of them are coming from cable too. Am I doing something wrong or just expecting too much from the "program"??? LOL I have been getting the feeling of late that I am expecting too much from several different things in my life.... SOOOO...

Arlene
A few things, Your download are limited by the person your downloading from. Therefore, if the remote host is busy, misconfigured or simply unstable. These things will impact your downloads.

Keep in mind, that if you are attempting to download popular content i.e music and movies there are also companies the broadcast results but make it impossible to download those files.
Therefore, you can spend a month trying to get a file that you think is one thing and it turns out to be something entirely different.

Finally, LeeWare Development hosts close to 30GB of content on the gnutella network on a 24/7 basis. We basically see datastreams (metered / throughput) = data going to users at rates between 1.5Mbps - 6Mbps. We use the latest version of LimeWire to do this. I can assure you that it is definately not the program.

Hope this helps.
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Default Re: Feeling Robbed

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Originally posted by GagReflex
I've gotten tired of getting the Awaiting sources msgs so I paid my 18.88 for pro hoping it would get better. It didn't.

The older versions of Limewire seemed to do a better job, what happened?

I've tried to follow the suggestions posts. Frankly they seem to be more confusing than helpful, block or not to block, 4 stars 2 stars, slow fast, force, push, pull, ping and pong...who freaking cares? I just want to download a couple files and I'm tired if it appearing in the searches and seeing my file still awaiting sources or waiting for busy hosts. C'mon the file is either available or not, crap or get off the pot!!
Please see my response to Arlene -- Also keep in mind that paying for the program does not mean that you will magically be able to do things with it you couldn't do with the free one. It's the same results, same people hosting those files and therefore you are subject to experience the same problems when trying to download stuff.
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holy crap this is long how do you start a thing like this ?
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Question Limewire hosts "blocked" by router?

I'm using LimeWire file sharing software for both downloading and uploading purposes.

I have been using ADSL router (D-Link DSL-500G) connection since last month (used to connect to Internet using dial-up modem which still available now).

Whenever I use LimeWire with router connection, I find that in Limewire:

1) The file searching showed relatively less results, ie. it showed
relatively less number of available hosts (available to be downloaded) for a specific file compare to if I'm using dial-up connection and search... (This happened frequently)

2) The uploading slot is rarely active, most of the time it shows zero uploading and occasionally one uploading. However, if using dial-up connection, obviously after I have connected to LimeWire network, my uploading slots are very busy (from 2 to 5 active uploading mostly).

It seems that the router connection always "blocked" or filtered some of the hosts from reaching to my computer (shared folder) and vice versa. I would like to know how to solve this and enable all the incoming and outgoing network traffic (make it as universal as possible).

I tried using different version such as 4.0.8 and 4.1.4 but the situations remain.

Any advice are highly appreciated. Thanks.
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Post Solution to your Problem

Regarding the difference in results, the only thing I can think of is that when you connect via dial-up vs DSL your search horizon is different that is, each machine is connected to a different portion of the network. For example I run several machines out of several locations. Sometimes I can search from one and receive results from ALL the others other times, only from a few and yet other times none of the other ones. Don't forget content on the network is constantly shifting as people logon and log off.

Finally, regarding your ability to upload file to other users. I would recommend you check the library tab to see if you are getting hits. If so, then at least you know that you are returning results. Also just because you are not seeing any upload activity doesn't mean that your files can't be uploaded.

Finally, For all the people who took my advice above to increase their chances of actually being able to download stuff. Well, those settings i.e. filters will reduce the number of results you see because they will basically ignore anyone who is behind a firewall. This was good advise at the time however, there have been several improvements in the software that I'm not sure that filtering is necessary.


Hope this helps.


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Default Re: Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire

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Originally posted by LeeWare
I posted this thread in the open discussion but decided I should also post it here as it could be useful for some people.

Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire

Objective:

I'm starting this thread to address two common problems which seem to appear over and over again in the forums.

General description of the problem:

1. Problems downloading content
2. Low upload count

Now, for the problems people are having with uploading / downloading, Consider the following suggestions:

3. Finally, if you are using NAT (meaning that the IP address of your machine is 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x ) now, might be able to connect, search and download from the network but no one will be able to upload from you. If you have taken the advise of others to force your IP using limewire then your half way there, as your port forwarding is working correctly. But, you need to FORCE THE IP OF YOUR ROUTER or FIREWALL to the network. To find out what your ip is from the machine that you use to get on Gnutella open a web browser to http://www.whatismyip.com
(write this IP down and force this IP in Limewire) If you need help testing this Just post a reply to this thread.

By implementing these suggestions you will have better luck downloading and uploading on Gnutella.
First, the details: I am on a pc running windows xp w/ the xp firewall, 56k modem, avant browser. I have enabled Gnutella port 6346 as per Limewire directions.

I have has successful downloads as well as successful uploads, but the failure rate is high for uploads and since I am doing a large file I have noticed I frequently go from active downloading to position #1 in a queue (which I have taken to mean that I lost connection briefly, and the next person took my place).
The median transfer rate is 1 kps for both uploads and downloads. Download speed has briefly gotten as high as
4kps when no other downloads are active, but this not always the case. I have seen max upload speeds of 2 kps.

I am going to try to force my ip address and have used whatismyip which returned 152.163.xxx.xx. However, I also have pinged my address and gotten back 172.158.xxx.xx.

This is confusing. Which is correct? Can both be correct? Why 2 different results? Where do I go from here?
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Default Re: Re: Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire

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Originally posted by mstfyd
First, the details: I am on a pc running windows xp w/ the xp firewall, 56k modem, avant browser. I have enabled Gnutella port 6346 as per Limewire directions.

I have has successful downloads as well as successful uploads, but the failure rate is high for uploads and since I am doing a large file I have noticed I frequently go from active downloading to position #1 in a queue (which I have taken to mean that I lost connection briefly, and the next person took my place).
The median transfer rate is 1 kps for both uploads and downloads. Download speed has briefly gotten as high as
4kps when no other downloads are active, but this not always the case. I have seen max upload speeds of 2 kps.

I am going to try to force my ip address and have used whatismyip which returned 152.163.xxx.xx. However, I also have pinged my address and gotten back 172.158.xxx.xx.

This is confusing. Which is correct? Can both be correct? Why 2 different results? Where do I go from here?
First judging by your IP addresses you are an AOL user. You are also using DHCP that is your ISP automatically assigns you can IP address everytime you connect to the network. This IP address probably changes each time also. No mystery here. Finally, There are several reason you might change positions in a queue.

#1 Most Gnutella clients request file chunks that is, some small portion of the file you are trying to download. When you complete downloading this chunk your client needs to make a new request for another piece. If the file is popular i.e. being downloaded by other users then their download requests would fill the slots. Leaving you in line.

#2 Sometime when downloading a file that contains multiple sources perhaps you were queued on one or more of the hosts but you don't become visable until you have completed downloading the segments for which you got an open slot.

#3 There could have been a break in communications (see #1)
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