the reality
 

All of this back and forth between Lee and Trap is a grand showcase of your knowledge of the peer to peer system but isn't it true that Limewire just sucks?

Even optimised using the methods outlined by Lee, Limewire consistently offers "requery sent" and "waiting in line" blah blah blah.........

Re: the reality
 

I think that I have offered time-an-time again in different threads that many of the problems facing p2p networking systems are not necessarily the results of the clients used to access these networks but of the behavior of the individuals participating in these networking systems.

It's the user base :

#1 People get on the network and jump off.

(24x7 sharers make up about 1% of any p2p system. These sharers have a small percentage of the files sought after on these networks.)

#2 Not enough replication of content.

(see problem #1 - there are not enough reliable sources for content on these networks.)

That's not a limewire problem. So in essence I don't agree that "LimeWire Sucks" It was an excellent p2p application. I personally no-longer use it as I have found a product that more closely suits my needs.

Try not to forget that the success of p2p system by-in-large requires the participation of a large-group of anonymous users, this make coordination and cooperation difficult.

One of the things I've done on the forums and on the p2p system I now use--I've created a content replication group. The purpose of such a group is to band together that group of hard-core file sharers to replicate content first between themselves so that high-demand files are available from a base set of sources. Next more people are invited to join in this effort. Now a much higher rate of of success is achieved from the people who are looking for files hosted by this group. The promise of p2p is also realized even if only in a small way-- the same thing is possible here.

how do you splain??
 

Mr. Lee,

How do you explain that Limewire achieves maybe 10-15% successful downloads when a PC running Kazaa sitting on the same desk, at the same time, searching the same Gnutella network, consisting of the same users might successfully find and download at rate of maybe 70%. If you have the setup available, try it before you respond to this post. I will be surprised if your position of "different users, etc" holds water after that experience.......

To be fair I am guesstimating these numbers. Actual stats may be different.

Pokpok

port forwarding
 

Excuse my ignorance, but where in the Limewire interface does one go to "push" the IP address. I am downloading successfully but not having anyone uploads, and I assume it is because of my router and my Windows XP Home firewall. When I used Shareaza there was a place in the tools menu under connection options to enter the numbers. For instance, I had to tell Shareaza what my router's IP address was and what port to use for inbound requests. I told my firewall to allow that same address and port through. I forwarded that port through my router to my own computer (one of three in our home netword) and had many uploads right away. Where do I tell my Limewire software these things? Is it because I'm using the free version? :confused:

Re: how do you splain??
 

Think network segmentation, think connection preferences etc. although theoretically, and sometimes practically, the gnutella network acts as a big cloud in which each of the various p2p clients connect. Some vendors (I won't mention any names) engineered features and functions which caused problems on the network. As a result, others built their systems (Supernodes / LeafNodes) so that they work together using features x/y all of this brings us to our current situation the network now exists as little separate islands of p2p applications aggregated by their respective Ultrapeers, Super-nodes, or whatever you wish to call them. Communications between these different client bases many times occurrs as a result of the client types connected to a Supernode. don't forget things like search horizons etc.

I think that you can answer your own question if you think about it long enough. Now if you have some specific information that contradicts my comments please do share them.


Hope this helps.

Re: port forwarding
 

1. goto /tools/options/advance/firewalls
2. Click Force IP
3. Enter your Public IP address
4. If you are using a different Port: Number Enter it otherwise leave the default.

Hope this helps.

yes it does help, thanks
 

Duh, I saw the "advanced" but when I clicked on it nothing happened; double clicking opened it up to where I can see "firewall". thanks much. :rolleyes:

I hope things impove for you.

c'mon!
 

Lee, thank you! You really do crack me up! What a gas!!!! Do you work for Limewire by any chance. You certainly know alot of big words related to peer to peer. Ohhhhh!!! I forgot, you are Lee, the President of LeeWare.

Maybe you could ask the Vice President of LeeWare to research the issue unless of course she's in the the kitchen making a meat loaf.

Seriously Mr. President, please save your self gratifying posts for forums where people don't use their brains. You will defend Limewire no matter how poorly it performs.

Pokpok Sawsaw, The Filipino Genius of the Sawsaw clan.

Re: c'mon!
 

pokpok,

I see from your comments that you're a person that likes to talk just for the sake of hearing himself speak. I'm glad that you find my comments humorous, no, I do not work for Limewire and my comments are not politically motivated.

My comments merely reflect a more positive experience with the application-whereas your comments, appeared to be completely non-constructive. But hey, it's a public forum and you're free to express any opinion you like.

I don't like meat loaf-So, the "Vice president" is busy reading a book. I assume by your last comment regarding people not using their brains, you're talking about people on this forum.

It is interesting to me and I'm sure most of the people here that the best explanation for the problem you could come up with is, that the program "sucks."

Now, it would appear to me, and I can always be wrong-- that someone who holds this opinion of this application, especially when there are alternatives available wouldn't spend their time trolling the forum with such negativity.

But I guess it takes all types to make the world go-round and on this note, I'll leave the floor to you so that you can continue entertaining yourself.

Have fun!