I was reading a thread on a different forum, about a woman complaining about child porn.
· (I was just recently disgusted when I found out what **keyword edited...do NOT post such search parameters** stands for well I still don't know but its got something to do with child porn....
and believe it or not but people are using limewire to share child porn its sick and its twisted and there has to b something the creators of limewire or whoever from limewire can do)

Is she disgusted that she couldn’t find out what pthc stands for?
I don’t know either, (could someone let me know please)

· And believe it or not but people are using limewire to share child porn!

Is there a lot of child porn? I have seen some references for it, (I have never seen any, nor do I wish to.) or are there a few films made along time ago that has circulated about? Because a only a few years ago it was illegal for any pornographic films or images. And now there are millions!

And what do you think people use p2p for, the majority of us only use it for illegal purposes, I mean LEGAL purposes.

Life is short,
I don’t earn much,
The cost of living is high,
And I want everything free!
I am a father, and a Grandfather, and anyone in the child porn industry should be Castrated with 2 bricks bashed together.

Should we the users of this site, police our own site for files such as child porn? Let the Governments do it, the admins, who shall we blame?

The good news is that the FBI does seem pretty aggressive with this kind of stuff. There was something in the news pretty recently about one of these kiddie***** rings getting broken up.

Thankyou for this inffo erickmcpeanut (good site)

A good question. Hugh Heffner and Playboy magazine for starters. He brought what was was then considered porn into the mainstream and made it commercially viable. The porn industry is now a multibillion dollar industry and they are always expanding the envelope of what can be published and shown.

How long before paedophiles and their child lovers demand the right of adoption, I wonder? Ahhh love...

This topic should be left open. People are so quick to make comments about killing pedophiles and attmepting to speak for everyone else. But the reality is that not everyone shares the same blame as you do.

There is no doubt that it is a problem but polic'ing the world trying to get the guys is no better than Bush "trying" to get terrorists as they pop up. Remember that kids game where you take the hammer and hit the heads as they pop up? Never stops does it? You have to go to the source of the problem and "unplug it". But first you have to KNOW the source. Most people don't know the source. Thanks to the smokescreen that the media puts out there. Most of these kids seen in porn are actually children that were kidnapped and sold off as slaves right here in America. Alot of it happens in Texas. If you try searching you will see that there is a disturbing number of kids disappearing in Texas. Yes, there are crazies going around and snatching up kids but those people are a minority to the REAL kidnappers that are getting children in numbers. This is organized crime pulled off by the well off. The same hijacking is being done to this country. So ultimately the reason why childporn will not be stopped properly is because the coward citizens who cannot stand up to their bigot president cannot fight crime. Maybe if they show some backbone against this disgraceful administration and get rid of them then we will see the numbers going down and our children will be safer. I'm bettin on that scenario.

and just what makes you think it will be closed????


as far as blame, the first ppl to blame are the ppl who are sharing the files...

the second ppl just might be the law, as they I'm sure are some of the sharers of such files (sting operations), and I'm also quite sure those files get spread all over because of that...

as far as real enforcement, well many users of networks make a point of logging the IP addys of ppl sharing quantities of the stuff and reporting the offenders...

I've got to say, I find the current 'trend' of super stiff penalties for mere digital images to be disturbing....WHY???? you scream, because many many times said penalties are far harsher than the person who actually abused the child gets..and that makes me think real hard before I report anyone...like think are they sharing enough of said illegal files to justify the amount of trouble they just might get into? I mean really, who did the most harm? a person who downed some images/videos, or a person who is actually doing the nasty deed (the answer should be rather obvious....)?

http://cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/19175/The...inders_Keepers

Actually, start with PartII and read your way up.

Ask yourself why you're NOT hearing more about this. Pete

And, why was this broadcast killed before it could air?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...acy+of+silence

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Pornografi has been around since there are Cameraes hell there are even Paintings of Erotic nature its not differnt with children pornografi even the old Greeks abused young girls and boys to think any P2P Program has something to do with it is simply hilariously stupid. Ofcourse it makes it easier to spread and back 2000 years ago not every movie clip was transfered over the entire world in a matter of seconds but in the end there is nearly always a down side to everything i mean consider Cars how many millions of people get killed by them every year hell every day thou i dont hear you mourning about it i guees you still drive in one everyday.
Ofcourse child Pornografi is a bad thing but thinking P2P Networks are the Problem is pretty stupid.

Frankly, I don't get upset about child porn unless real children are used. As long as it is just a creation from someone's mind, similar to cartoon except perhaps a little more real looking, then so what? In fact having simulated child porn available, may satisfy the craving someone feels and thereby eliminate the real child porn.

I realize most people are emotional and not logical; however, I would willingly permit 1,000 simulations if that would prevent 1 child from being used.

Short of gently giving them a shot that will let them go to sleep forever, there is not much you can do to prevent people from acting on their cravings. I don't believe they can control their cravings. However, if their cravings can be satisfied with simulations and, if that in turn, will reduce the actual harm to children, I don't believe people's objections are logical.

I personally don't wish to watch crude porn or much violence in videos so, when I find it, I just delete. However, if others like it, that is find with me as long as they don't expose me to it.

i don't care if it's fantasy child porn or real hardcore child porn, i think the creators and users of this filth should be shot, there is nothing more sinister than the abuse of a child, exposing them to things that kids should not witness, and your theory of simulated child porn satisfying their craving just shows us how naive and ignorant you are, it wont satisfy them it will leave them wanting the real thing, methadone doesn't satisfy a heroin addicts cravings, and to think that filesharing isn't a part of the problem is just ludicrous, it's the biggest medium for sharing this **** that has ever existed, i use limewire a lot for music and movies but if shutting down p2p would reduce the traffic of child porn by even a half then i am all for it, i for one am disgusted by the lack of responsibilty taken by computer hackers and experts, if i had the knowledge i would seek out child porn distributors and users and expose them, there must be a way to plant bugs in their computers letting scotland yard or the FBI know where they are, if you can't expose them then surely you would be able to destroy their systems. but i don't think enough is being done, even when they are caught they are let off lightly, somebody i went to school with was selling pictures on the web, he was benifiting finacialy and he was also having sex with a 13 year old boy, and his sentence was a mere 18 months, needless to say, he was out in 6, he still has his old friends and has even got back together with his ex-girlfriend,
the lack of empathy from society will sicken me for life

Right, the problem resides with pedophiles, not p2p networks. Greek statues have long before portrayed nudity.

This is something that I've wondered for myself... the exact same thing...

Maybe you should be shot for being an ignorant?

Have any of you thought of who these people are to blame?
They are people who, maybe were abused themselves as children, thus they repeat the actions of the abuser... a psychological trauma.

----my 2 cents...----

- We are nobody to judge, blame, or decide what to do with these sickos...
- If you are religioue and have 'faith' in god or whoever, then you should know damn well that they will get what they deserve...
- I hate all the cp in LW too... I try to find a video and I get a bunch of cp or porn... but you know what? I ignore it and get on with my life.

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you just said you ignore it and get on with your life and you have the nerve to call ME ignorant, some of us with feelings who actually care about children can't ignore it *******, explain to me how i am ignorant, and just because peadophiles may have been abused themselves doesn't excuse them abusing other children, i for one am sick of opening the paper and reading about another schoolteacher or a judge or a priest who's been abusing little kids or downloading this crap
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Explain why should we just shoot someone for doing something wrong.


~Amendment VI
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense."

'mr. feelings', would executing someone at the spot make you feel good?
Or, are you just another ignorant dumb ****?

People have done worser things than downloading cp, or making some 'fantasy porn' with photoshop.

I choose to stay away from all videos & pictures in LW for the same reason.
You should think before you condemn.

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I may have to agree there may not be adequate evidence that you are ignorant. More like uneducated, emotional, illogical, and most certainly un-American. Since you would so freely trash the freedoms the USA was founded on, perhaps you should find a country more to your liking. I would suggest Iran and North Korea as countries you would feel at home in.