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Old June 13th, 2002
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Simple, you send out a request and the clients that have information about a sepecific file send out the metadata in XML format. In that XML message there is also the bitprint hash. When the user selects a file from the list of available files, another query is sent out for that hash and any user with that file will open a dialog with the requesting party tells the requesting party what part of the file the sending party has and then the sending party will try to start a transmission with the requesting party.

The requesting party can also include in their second query for a sepecific hash what specific parts of that hash the requesting party allready has (or needs, depending on what the spec says). That way only users who have a reason to respond will respond (thus keeping them anonymous to the requesting party).

These hash queries will become the standard for "researches" and should happen on regular intervals when a user cannot find a location of a specific file and all of the alternate locations (as defined by a seprate alt. location spec) either do not have a needed part of the file or when the alt. location doesn't exist.
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Aside from the technical issues, I would think there will be a problem with legal issues. The gnutella network already has bad PR, if we make a system that seems to hide or protect what we are doing people may look at it as an issue. Kinda like a "what do you have to hide" thing.


Someone else a little while back said, why not use encryption on the network to protect users. Same issues applied.


I'm not saying it wont work, I'm saying the non tech issues may turn out larger than the tech issues.
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That way only users who have a reason to respond will respond (thus keeping them anonymous to the requesting party).
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How does this keep them ( the sending party ) anonymous?
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It doesn't..
Less people are announced to the party, thus reducing the number of people who could get nabbed.
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Kinda like a "what do you have to hide" thing.
You only have nothing to hide while they come to take your neighbors away, then you can hide when they come to take you away.

In this world you have EVERYTHING to hide, and everything you do is a crime, so you better hide.
If you don't get this, then keep being ignorant and happy.
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Dude, I wasnt arguing with you. I was saying that thats what outsiders looking in will say. If they see a fully open easy access network suddenly adopt security and the users trying to hide their identities, they WILL say, "what do you guys have to hide?". Its like if you come in to a room a a few people are talking and they see you and immediately shut up, they probably dont want you to hear them. WE are the people in the room.


Gnutella already has a bad image in the eyes of the public, why because the MEDIA! They are the ones that associate it with just piracy. Not even focusing on its great technology and how it works, why, because they dont understand these complicaqted tech issues. They are camera jockeys.
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