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Old June 20th, 2002
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All that wasted time when you could have just learned C.
So what, you took IE and called it from your BASIC program, big deal, I am impressed.
You are the typical stubborne, geeky programmer type that won't change his ways. So nothing I can say will convince you, have fun re-writing the world in a un-supported, ancient 1970's language while we all advance past you with lightning speed.

It's called leaving you in the dust.

C is very close to machine code and thus compiles down nicely. Yes you have to be a real programmer and watch out not to trash memory because the language doesn't handle all that stuff for you, but due to NO overhead you get faster, better code for it.
C is easily portable to other platforms and processors if you want that.
Plus you can do multi threading, go look that up.
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So what, you took IE and called it from your BASIC program, big deal, I am impressed.
Look at the statusbar you dope. three clients connected, horizon over 2900, etc.. that was just for the 18min that it was up in the ide. Oh yeah theres a thing called the IMMIEDIATE WINDOW. there you can see the reception and transmission of packets.

Register so we can all see who you are, and tell me do you know ANYTHING about writing code in VB or C? I'll bet not much. A picture tells a thousand words, and all you could see was a window showing YOUR stupid post. DUH, I put it there for you to see...

Idiot.
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OK I am further impressed because you wrote some print statements that make it look like you did something.
Don't blow a fuse, it's only BASIC.
How will registering tell you anything about me? Anyone can get a hotmail account.
I could even register under two different names and argue with myself all day long and you wouldn't know that I was doing it.
So who's the fool now? Do you know anything about the internet?
Why don't you post for us your full name, address, SS# and a valid credit card number so we know who you are.
Doesn't matter who I am, it matters that you are wasting your time with VB.

Dear Mr. 64.24.x.x.x
There are apparently many things you do not know about the internet, as well.

Something which DOES matter quite a lot around here is that you are continuously posting with negative comments and simplistic general slagging off of people. You are a frequent poster and unfortunately your message is always the same -
Snide and sarcastic attacks followed by an inevitable vaccuum of positive assistance with the attending non-display of your knowledge.
Cool it, OK, please?

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OK, sorry Gnutellian, I have a strong opinion against using BASIC to develop a professional program, and you have a strong opinion about VB so we will leave it at that.
I guess it's wrong here to have a strong opinion about anything now.
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Now, now, Mr. 64.24.x.x.x

You are both entitled to your strong opinions and welcome to voice them here.
It is a matter of style and pleasant behaviour which is the problem to date.........
You will benefit yourself and others far more by sharing your opinions in a non-aggressive manner, that's all.
I have strong 'opinions' about many things, but it is senseless to present them in an overly-aggressive manner because you only switch off the listener.
I do agree with your general comment about trying to dissuade people from 'wasting their time' in basic, so keep at it but with a bit of "golden rule" stuff and maybe a droplet of humour every so often!!!!!!

And, register, huh?
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Unregistered, do you have any particular reason you do not like VB?
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My only point was to show GAMER that the creation of a client was possible in VB. I never stated that this was to be a 'Professional' or 'Commercial' app. This is\was simply an exercise to test:

A, My ability as a programmer.

B, VB's ability as a programming language.

I never expected to be attacked by expressing that, if GAMER wished to attempt writing a client in VB then by all means attempt it. I am by no means a 'Black Belt' programmer, but I have managed to accomplish what he wishes to attempt. I never assumed that a vote of confidence would have resulted in the bashing of a programming language that UNREGISTERED appears to lack the skill to master.

UNREGISTERED:

I do know C++, and you can 'thread' in vb.

GAMER:

By all means, If you wish to write a client in VB, do so. It can be done.

and so am I...
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I have strong 'opinions' about many things, but it is senseless to present them in an overly-aggressive manner because you only switch off the listener.
I do agree with your general comment about trying to dissuade people from 'wasting their time' in basic, so keep at it but with a bit of "golden rule" stuff and maybe a droplet of humour every so often!!!!!!
I'm not the type to sugar coat everything, life is not disneyland happy all the time.
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And, register, huh?
What does that solve? Won't make a difference. And I need to know who you are first, please post more personal information, like your real name, and more about yourself because you are still anonymous to me even though you are "registered". Who are you???
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Who am I?
Why, I am someone who out-ranks you here.

Now, be a good boy and answer Gnutellian's questions.

Remember, YOU are the one who crashed into this thread with your comments, and YOU are the one who has either to prove the merit of your points or shut-up.
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Somebody definately hates vb, eh?

VB is a good language, however it may get a bit resource hungry with processor usage. Making C++ dll's to do much of the work would be the best idea, since VB is excellent for making simple, fast and slick GUI's... I'll have to continue reading up on the ever changing protocol and see how well vb can manage.. Gnotella was good enough, why not =)
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VB is also very good at databases. And other sorts of internet powered apps(FTP, chat clients).



And as to the question of "if you dont have time to learn a new language how do you have time to code a VB client from scratch"
There are 2 well known VB gnutella clients, both old and neither will connect. The most likely candidate to be updated is Coyotella, but I have never been able to establish a good hookup with it.
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You can Program a gnutella Client in any language
that would support TCPIP

any yes VB C++ and Delphi can do Multithreading
as well as handel all the commands and all
the rest of the crap

"You Can have the Best Computer and Programming
Language in the World and still have the Dumbest
Programmer right behinde the wheel"
= the Fastest Piece of **** you have ever seen.

What i tend to find is alot of greed

"yeah yeah put that hidden little Advertisment
in our program they will never find it
sure it will slow em down but we will make mad
cash = GREED aka Ignorance aka Spy wear"

You ever seen anyone relase any code anywhere
that some could actually get the hands on somthing
that actually really worked
i have downloaded and compiled
Delphi C++ VB any version
and still when i hit that button to make it
there is always a error or ya find out
if ya let it run by itself for say about 3 minutes
you don't even have to click a dam thing
and BAM it crashes all by itself...........
"But hey as i look back what was the name
of this project and what was it programmed in ?"
you will find it all over the place and the working stuff
well you might not find the code for that
Especially if it works and is somewhat stable

The worst one was i was debugging and fixing this one client
I won't mention any names
but when it connected and hooked to another client
it would wait on a Graph Display to give it time
to connect if it didn't display then it would kill the connection

that had to be the worse piece of crapola
i have ever compiled.

Please some release somthing tangable
that others can use and can be found other places
that actually works and has error handling
so others can get a good idea and help the comunity
ty sorry for the crap spelling
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Hello fellow programmers (and haters). I am also writting a gnutella/gnutella2/bittorrent program in vb.net.

It can be easily done. It's all in the structure (as with any program). I have found a site that walks you through gnutella in c#. With a little knowledge in c# language, you can convert it to VB.

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/IP/gnucleus.aspx

For the VB.NET people:

1. You can multithread very easily.
2. .NET is implemented into Vista (tells you something).
3. .NET IS stable. I see more c++ programs crash then .NET.
4. .NET is managed, structured code. Making it wasy to continue devolopement.
5. Let face it. It's easier to learn so you can actually develope programs, you know, what a programmer does...

I have delt with these c#/vb haters for over a decade. They simply think they are better and above the language. Oh, well. I'll get over them.
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If you are determined to implement Gnutella in VB, then I won't stop you.

But remember that Gnutella is no longer as "simple" as it was in the 0.4 times.

Please have a look at Gnutella for Users - Gnufu to get a glimpse of the concepts you'll have to implement to create a compliant Gnutella client.

(I'm working on getting the specs wiki up again at the moment).
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