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Old June 17th, 2002
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Default Goals for G2 (was GSP)

I am in the middle of my P2P Research for G2 (Gnutella 2), which I was calling The Gnutella Services Project and then I figured I might as well send in a proposal for v2 that can be thrown arround The GDF for a few months.

Here is my (Revised) Goals for G2 (in order of importance):
1) !! FULL XML COMPLIANCE FOR MESSAGES !!
2) Network Load Balancing
3) Improvements for Legitimate File Sharing
a. Native File Encryption for files under Copyright
b. Full Support for Digital Signatures on Files
c. Support for "Distributions" or "Packages" of Multiple Files
4) Introduction + Simple Implementation of "Network Services"
a. First Service - IRC-Style Chat Syntax
b. Future Services May Include:
i. Usenet-Style News Server
ii. Free Net-Style HTTP Propagation
iii. Streaming Media Support (RealMedia/Quicktime/WMedia)
5) Intelligent Network Routing
6) Partial File Sharing (using Bitprint)
7) Full Alt-Location Support
8) Additional Ways to Find Files (Using Hashes)
a. Fully Open URL Syntax
b. Fully Open Text-Based File Syntax (*.p2p)
9) Redundant Network Core (Reduce Need for External PONG Servers)
10) Ability for ISPs/Universities to Ensure More File transfers Occur Locally
11) "Direct Connection" Functionality
12) Improved LAN Functions
13) Better Utilization of Available Client Resources
14) More Metadata
15) "Chaining" Support


Please feel free to comment!
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You write the code for all that and post a message when you are done, ok?
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Dude.. register..

I am tired of responding to (moderate) flamebait from people who don't want to tell us who they are.
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yep, keep going and ignore who is not helping or constructive. ideas are welcome!
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Whatever dude.. I know what you are saying..

But you are anonymous, thus I can't give your opinions much respect.
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btw, last unregistered (me) were not first unregistered.
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Its easy to sit there in your arm chair and make a list of everything that is needed to improve gnutella, and those have been listed many times before.
It's another thing to actually write the code to do it.
So go grab a copy of Gnucleus off of CVS and get busy if you want to see all that working within the next year or two.
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WTF? I am writing a full technical spec on it!!!
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Write the code, then write a spec for it. Everything changes when you write code and discover how difficult it is to do.
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do not listen to this Unregistered. create your ideas and write your proposals. everything starts with ideas, creativity and knowledge.

The other unregistered in this thread
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Creativity without knowledge of how it would work in code is a waste of time

My new (revised) list of features:

1. Travel faster than the speed of light
2. Go to other planets
3. Come back
4. Set up nodes on other plants
5. Share files across the universe
6. Built in nuron interface to brain
7. Share thoughts via P2P
8. Have sex via P2P
9. World peace

Those are my goals - without writing the code or doing the actual work that is
Excuse me, I have to get back to my arm chair and beer now
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I know what is possible in code.. All I am trying to do is making a protocal that competes.
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Default Re: Goals for G2 (was GSP)

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Originally posted by nick4753

Here is my (Revised) Goals for G2 (in order of importance):
1) !! FULL XML COMPLIANCE FOR MESSAGES !!
I don't see what this means. XML compliance with what?

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2) Network Load Balancing
3) Improvements for Legitimate File Sharing
a. Native File Encryption for files under Copyright
b. Full Support for Digital Signatures on Files
c. Support for "Distributions" or "Packages" of Multiple Files
2) is a worthy goal.

3.a would promote sharing of copyrighted material. A bad feature. It is forbidden to do so, don't you know?

b. This is already in HUGE.

c. Why not?

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4) Introduction + Simple Implementation of "Network Services"
a. First Service - IRC-Style Chat Syntax
b. Future Services May Include:
i. Usenet-Style News Server
ii. Free Net-Style HTTP Propagation
iii. Streaming Media Support
(RealMedia/Quicktime/WMedia)
You know, small is beautiful.

Methinks you're trying to pack too many things in a monolitic block. Also you forgot e-mail support! You can't have News without e-mail... ;-)

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5) Intelligent Network Routing
6) Partial File Sharing (using Bitprint)
7) Full Alt-Location Support
5. is too fuzzy for me to comment. Who would want dumb network routing anyway?

6. PFSP is in the works on the GDF.

7. This is HUGE.


OK. I'm stopping here. I hate web fori. Having to edit a reply in a small browser window with limited editing capabilities and the inhability to save to a file is beyond what I can tolerate.

Just to say that the remaining points are so fuzzy and generic that it is hard to comment without seeing what you have in mind exactly.

Good luck.

Raphael
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If he thinks he can code and setup all that stuff then we can just wait and see IF he finishes and what he says.
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Thats all well and good as a proposal, but it's a lot of hardwork when it comes to coding.
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