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View Poll Results: Which Gnutella clients for Windows you like most?
Bearshare 20 10.42%
Gnucleus 10 5.21%
Limewire 107 55.73%
Morpheus 23 11.98%
Phex 14 7.29%
Shareaza 36 18.75%
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Xolox 5 2.60%
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If you download from me: Yes. I only rarely allow freeloaders (same with Acquisition).
For others: I'm not sure how people set up their client. Acquisition warns on second startup, if the User doesn't share, that sharing enhances their download experience.
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I think I can guess what's going to win this
Who did you think was going to win this?
I bet you thought Shareaza? LOL
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Zultrax www.zultrax.com

Easily runs all day long without bothering your work on your PC.
Comes totally clean with no adware, spyware or other unwanted extras.

It supports two networks amongst which Gnutella on which it behaves as a fair client. Zultrax does not block off other clients, does not post selfisly a lot of queries and replies fairly to queries of other nodes.
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Zultrax sucks. It doesn't support even half of the latest Gnutella specs. Please don't use it.
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Zultrax sucks. It doesn't support even half of the latest Gnutella specs. Please don't use it.
Since you apperantly took quite some time to check out Zultrax:
Would you be so kind to give a few examples of which specs Zultrax is missing according to you and why exactly that would make Zultrax suck.
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Would you be so kind to give a few examples of which specs Zultrax is missing according to you and why exactly that would make Zultrax suck.
You can find these examples on this (somewhat outdated) site.
http://rfc-gnutella.sourceforge.net/...ing/index.html

As for why being unable to use UDP, having no proper ultrapeers, no dynamic querying or having the most ugly GUI someone could possibly imagine sucks: - it simply does.
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@Zultrax: This is in the technology-part of the Zultrax-page

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A privacy protection feature

Your Zultrax checks if the program on the other side is also Zultrax. If not then the intruder will be battled by either cancelling the connection or by sending him invalid information.

It is much more annoying for those who want to steal your privacy to be kept busy processing garbage than to be just disconnected.
Could you please explain that?

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Zultrax supports two networks, Zepp and Gnutella. This feature is -of course - only available on Zepp. On that protocol Zultrax is the only available client. Zultrax hides which communication is going to which IP and on which IP files are found.

If one manages on some kind of way to connect to ZEPP and discramble the communication one might be possible to make that information visible. That is what we try to prevent.

Based on the characteristics of the communication one node calculates two complex numbers and sends one to the other. The other replies with the second number. If that does not match it is not using the proper algoritm and one is apperently trying to enter the network not using Zultrax.

In that case an intruder is detected. The intruder could be trying to figure out that algorithm without having to decompile zultrax and we make his attempt easy by sending an error message every time he is wrong.

So, we don't. We keep the connection alive and make sure that all information sent to him is garbage. That garbage can be created to answer queries with actuall found files but combined with the wrong IP's. Of course ' search results' being given by this intruder will be just dropped.

As a result the intruder will be given no information helping him in his attempt to hack stuff instead he will have hard time to detect if he is receiving garbage or not.

The used algorithm is dynamically and the garbage not just garbage but made as realistic as possible and in a low percentage of the cases it is not garbage, it is real.

Finally the goal of all this is to increase levels of privacy a little.
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You can find these examples on this (somewhat outdated) site.
http://rfc-gnutella.sourceforge.net/...ing/index.html

As for why being unable to use UDP, having no proper ultrapeers, no dynamic querying or having the most ugly GUI someone could possibly imagine sucks: - it simply does.
I have to agree on that one!
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Shareaza is the best i have found so far.

None others have the power, features or ease of use that Shareaza has (i have version 2.0)
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