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RaaF August 14th, 2001 01:12 PM

Alternative network
 
I share a lot of rare 80's music, and I rarely get uploads.
In the good old napster day's I always got lots of uploads, and I could dl a lot as well.
when I do a search, I do get results, but harldy ever a good connection (if you do get any at all)
So I was wandering, perhaps It is possible to set up a alternative network.
There are clients that can be used to set up private networks, so if there are people interested , post a reply, so perhaps we can set up something...

podonne August 16th, 2001 01:41 PM

small networks
 
Interesting. How about a gnutella client that can distinguish clients among different "groups". So you can be in the "80s" group and only receive connection from other "80s" group members. It would need a new message type in addition to the basic five, and it would be useless when faced with clients which were not using the specific. GDI wise, you could join a kind of channel like on napster, and then say you only want conections (or search results) from those people on the channell. any suggestions?

scotti August 16th, 2001 02:00 PM

wouldn't it be enough to work on with gnutellaclients, but distribute a host-list according to this special interest.
Normally you are not in a network with all the gnutella-users, but with a small subset of them in a "horizon". This horizon develops with your searches (your interests) Thats like it is.

So it would be a small step to build horizons by distributing host-lists ordered by special interests. (Not gnutellahosts.com but gnutellahosts.80s.com)

It may not be the best solution, but it should be effective

RaaF August 16th, 2001 03:21 PM

Well ofcourse one could ask and hope for it to be implemented in the network but I am thinking of setting up a small scaled "alternative private network" and this could be done as soon as there are some people interested.
What we would basically need is for all people that are interested, to exchange ip adresses, so we could manually connect to each other by using the same network name.
And we could agree on a certain day of the week.

Beckerist August 17th, 2001 06:13 AM

Basically the same thing:
 
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=3022 I am trying to do something similar. Not necessarily 80's music, but possibly I could start there to gain experience.

Ahri August 18th, 2001 07:35 AM

this is already implemeted in the gnutella v0.4 protocal, and you can even do this with some programs like limewire (i think),

when any computer makes a connection request to a host on the network, the first thing it does once the connection is accepted is send the string "GNUTELLA CONNECT/<protocal version string>\n\n"
protocal version string usually = "0.4"

then, if the recieving host wishes to mantain the connection, it must reply with "GNUTELLA OK\n\n" if it doesn't, the connection is terminated

if you want an 80's subnetwork, all you have to do is change the connection string (again, i think limewire lets you do this)

the only thing that needs to be done is to standardize the 80's connection string and provide IP numbers to computers in the subnetwork with a host cach server

podonne August 24th, 2001 09:44 AM

I should think that would be difficult to implement on a network wide level due to the fact that you would need to be able to connect to other servers to recieve IP lists to search. The idea would be just to not search servers who are not part of the group. I am unconvinced that hostcaches are solutions to this problem.

Ahri August 24th, 2001 09:48 AM

the host cache supplies the IP list

podonne August 24th, 2001 09:50 AM

But on another note, what if you wrote a client that would send out a group-specific welcome message when connected to, as previously indicated, but instead of refusing the connection based on that message, it would simply remember which hosts that were connected had given that group identifier. That would allow you to create a small sub-group within the network to search. It could even list all the different groups that it was apart of so you could be in multiple groups.

You know, I like this idea.

If anyone would like to discuss this further, please do.

Ahri August 24th, 2001 10:05 AM

i was thinking of adding a feature just like that to my servant


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