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Old April 21st, 2008
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Check all files with Bitzi before downloading.
Avoid files that have "PTHC" (pre-teen hard core), or "hussy fan" in their name. I suggest you block those.
Delete anything that looks illegal.

The FBI took my friend's computer and found tons of files that he had deleted (and thought he had overwritten) on his hard drive. They found that he had (accidently) downloaded a few PTHC files, but he had immediately deleted them. (My friend is gay - he likes men, not children). He was not charged. They suggested he be more careful - see below. [His case had nothing to do with file sharing.]

The FBI says:
Say you get an illegal item in your mailbox. You trash it right away; no problem.
Get more illegal stuff and trash it immediately; you may have some explaining to do. Keep illegal stuff, even if you don't share it; go to jail.

Downloading child porn, even if you're just curious to see if it's real, encourages the criminals who make that krap; they like to be watched. Let's frustrate them.
There are international agencies that are working to catch these people.
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So far it looks like they're getting better at it too. Let's hope this
means they'll be driven out of gnutella over the next few years as
they realize they have no real anonymity here.
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Aaron, in his self inflating importance, has again failed to give proper information on this subject....probably because he knows nothing about how things really work...

defragmentation will indeed speed up performance and overwrite some areas of your HDD...but not all...even if you defragment and then completely fill up your drive with data, there will still be possible areas where past data is accessible (even by free programs)...temp files, page files, etc....

about the only thing he has gotten right is that it is 'expensive' to truly retrieve data (and even getting that 'straight' answer was hard)....

for the truly worried I suggest totally wiping your HDD....nuke your HDD
I have been violently ill, nauseous, paranoid, the whole 9 yards having downloaded a supposed kp file on accident (meaning i didnt open the file to confirm my fear if it was just a prank file). I first had a filter in with words like child, pedophile, kid, kiddy...but i didnt have pedo in there nor 16yo 17yo, and had 3 files come in under those 3 tags. one was pedo one was 16 and one was 17. I searched my incomplete folder and found them there. My heart started racing and my stomach started hurting and i bagan recitting what i would want to say in court if this **** got deep. it was on accident. now im paranoid. i dont have a floppy drive so the Nuke drive option doesnt seem to be option does it? how can i clean it other than defragging? this is keeping me up at night and driving me insane.

i cant eat, cant sleep, i feel like im going to puke and should just throw my pc away

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all things considered your worst fear should be the reaction of your significant other, if there is one...and that's if they are keeping track of what you are doing...

if the file is still listed as being there in your OS (i.e. you haven't deleted it yet) then some sort of data eraser set to overwrite the file multiple times should be OK for your situation....if you have already deleted it then defragging and then filling up your drive to the max should remove the data from 'easy' retrieval....

if this is a first time, one time, occurrence then forensic analysis of your HDD would prove that....

darin's boot and nuke is also available in .ISO format which can be put on a CD and booted from just like the floppy file...if you are that paranoid and want to follow that route then be aware that you do have a project for yourself...backing up all important data...doing the boot and nuke...then the reinstall of your OS...make sure to have ALL drivers available for use and install your chipset drivers just after you boot into the clean OS the first time then reboot and install other drivers...the chipset drivers are MotherBoard specific and tell it how to operate with the OS...

I would suggest that the first thing you do after getting basic drivers and such installed is to do a full update on the OS, then start installing the programs you wish...then upon completion of all the dirty work defrag the drive and go on with life....
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if this is a first time, one time, occurrence then forensic analysis of your HDD would prove that....
this has happened before i believe which is why i think i deleted the program awhile back because the program LimeWire had these illegal files to begin with. Then having seen Frostwire and had entered in the keywords in the filter, i thought this wouldnt happen again. I'm thinking about never downloading the damn file searching things ever again cause this is bs theres some much crap on these servers. trying to find a good bdsm video sometimes gay (if that says anything about my orientation) instead i get something potentially illegal. its bullcrap. what happened was i entered gay **** (i like those dramas) and then i just hit shift key to get like all the ones above 10 gigs. so i must have had a good 50 or so legal ones and 3 were under the radar and got in the imcomplete folder. this really scared the turds out of me.

i deleted the files, the entire incomplete folder and defragged almost ten times.

seriously, why doesnt limewire or frostwire just set their own filter on their server already - jeebus
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all things considered your worst fear should be the reaction of your significant other, if there is one...and that's if they are keeping track of what you are doing...

if the file is still listed as being there in your OS (i.e. you haven't deleted it yet) then some sort of data eraser set to overwrite the file multiple times should be OK for your situation....if you have already deleted it then defragging and then filling up your drive to the max should remove the data from 'easy' retrieval....

if this is a first time, one time, occurrence then forensic analysis of your HDD would prove that....

darin's boot and nuke is also available in .ISO format which can be put on a CD and booted from just like the floppy file...if you are that paranoid and want to follow that route then be aware that you do have a project for yourself...backing up all important data...doing the boot and nuke...then the reinstall of your OS...make sure to have ALL drivers available for use and install your chipset drivers just after you boot into the clean OS the first time then reboot and install other drivers...the chipset drivers are MotherBoard specific and tell it how to operate with the OS...

I would suggest that the first thing you do after getting basic drivers and such installed is to do a full update on the OS, then start installing the programs you wish...then upon completion of all the dirty work defrag the drive and go on with life....
so i can doo al this by burning on a cd..hmm lemmie check n see if i have a cd burner and blank
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seriously, why doesnt limewire or frostwire just set their own filter on their server already - jeebus
because there are no servers....sounds like you need to do a little research on modern p2p programs....the only 'servers' are each person's shared folder which is on their own machine....
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because there are no servers....sounds like you need to do a little research on modern p2p programs....the only 'servers' are each person's shared folder which is on their own machine....
alright - im still learning bout this stuff, i do appreciate the knowledge. btw i dont have a burner. so they were deleted and defragged. i read up a few posts up that if they are deleted which they are then i stand a chance explaining myself if fbi investigate me, may. but thats their waste of time being A) i dont have any potential or real illegal files on the drive B) they may not have been even real illgeal movies - perhaps they were just tagged pedo or 14yo - but in fact just another misltagged tag (which many seem to be jsut tags, example, was downloading a gay porn tagged gay and came out was about some girl ****ing a guy, mistagged, maybe these were misstagged too)

so im not too worried now that im using my logical brain. its just really doesnt seem worth my stress to use these programs. then again maybe i should look before i leap rather than hit shift and download many files tagged one thing which may be tagged with something else as well.

example: "hey ill enter gay porn into the search" hey look 20 files, weee!!!! click, download all....hey what the? whats this in my folder? oh god what if its real? DELETE DELETE DELETE... this has happened in the past when i download multiple files. thats why i swicthed to frostwire but yet again filtering wasnt enough - means i cant download multple files - i have to read each file being before downloading...which sucks cause i like downloading many files cause many wont download fast enough lol

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If you want to read up on p2p, I'd suggest looking at Gnutella for Users - Gnufu

There you can find info how Gnutella works in a style which is easy to understand without having to dig RFCs first.
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