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"Check all files with Bitzi before downloading" is the first line in this thread. Never, NEVER, download files without caution. Bitzi, because of imput by users, can save you hours of useless and dangerous downloading. Any file shared on any network may have info about it on Bitzi. I don't mean just files with a given name, but the exact file (or copies of it). All file types are covered, i.e., audio, video, software, even txt files may have comments about them on the Bitzi site.

In the world of torrents, I never download files that have no comments from other users. Remember, those fake files can really mess up your computer.

Shared files are like Hallowe'en candy; most of it is safe and tasty, but you check out each piece before you eat it.
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I am well against CP and that, I was disgusted the other day when downloading a movie from another host I browsed their files, much to my amazment and disgust there must have been 200+ cp files there. No comes the prediciment on what to do?,
do I
a) report it - then get in trouble for downloading adult stuff from them (not CP by the way)
or just shrug it off as life has it.

I blocked the ip address striaght away so can't find out what it is again!
Are you sure you had the IP address? If things were that simple, in the US anyway, you would have cops doing the same thing. Unless I'm wrong a cop with a IP address one can go to Dell or whoever and find out who the machine is registered with for warranty purposes.

Making that knowledge public in most Western countries will scare off every CP distributor of note.
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Unless I'm wrong a cop with a IP address one can go to Dell or whoever and find out who the machine is registered with for warranty purposes.
say what????

you're wrong....and IP address is similar to a house address...it is not an ID of the computer....
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Hey Aaron, not all underage nudity is porn. Its explicitly defined in the law. Look at all the Fed and Supreme Court decisions on the subject-if its not the product of abuse then it will most likely fall under the protection of the law. You can even go to Barnes and Noble and by books with young teen girls, yes, fully nude. So since you don't have a law degree stop posting idiotic comments that have no logical or legal grounding. Nudity is not porn, its what is being done to the child or teen, and/or what they are doing to themselves.
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It really depends on jurisdiction as far as nudity goes. Some states
and countries are stricter than others, some ridiculously so.
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you're wrong....and IP address is similar to a house address...it is not an ID of the computer....
thanks for that Peer. I'd like to believe that but this site, for a few dollars, claims they can identify your very house with a IP number:

People-Search.com

Or, I think, give me my IP address by entering my home street address.

My point is that if the cops collect my IP address via my downloading or uploading something to/from my PC they can pinpoint the street address.

If I'm allowing someone to collect my IP address and I don't know how to disguise or hide it its effectively public information.

I assume my only option, assuming I'm one of the bad guys here is to dump my computer, get a new one for cash and never register the warranty or anything else for that matter.

And if I want my enemy to get arrested all I have to do is buy his old but registered computer, not change the address, download and share CP then watch the cops fruitlessly raid his home.

I actually hope I'm wrong on all this, that my privacy can't be invaded that easily but with the web site I referred to the scenario is realistic. Show me how I'm wrong. Please

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pulease take the time to read my last post, where I quoted your words again...

you stated (and I again quote YOU) "Unless I'm wrong a cop with a IP address one can go to Dell or whoever and find out who the machine is registered with for warranty purposes."

YOU said the law can to to "Dell or whoever......."

I said an IP addy is like an address....

you seem to be having some problems with what's up and down today...been drinking?

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thanks for that Peer. I'd like to believe that but this site, for a few dollars, claims they can identify your very house with a IP number:

People-Search.com

Or, I think, give me my IP address by entering my home street address.

My point is that with my IP address the cops can pinpoint the street address and raiding the house is a simple enough matter.
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Well one of us is. lol

The point is that the cops can peruse my computer for a IP address and come and get me. So you guys in the Western world that have CP, even by accident, should get busy.

Anybody have the address of Fry's?
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Even if you had the theoretical victim's computer, intact with everything the same
as when he had it, any IP address you got using it would still lead to you unless
you also tapped his internet connection and used it too. The ISP is who controls
the IP addresses, not the hardware in the computer, and your window of
opportunity would be pretty small depending on how often the ISP sets leases to
expire and how quickly your victim hooks up his next computer to the same
internet account.

Actually having the hardware could make it possible to impersonate the other guy
but you would have to use the same physical connection and do it before he
registers a replacement computer with the ISP. In other words, you would have to
get close enough to be caught in order to try it.
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Even if you had the theoretical victim's computer, intact with everything the same
as when he had it, any IP address you got using it would still lead to you unless
you also tapped his internet connection and used it too. The ISP is who controls
the IP addresses, not the hardware in the computer, and your window of
opportunity would be pretty small depending on how often the ISP sets leases to
expire and how quickly your victim hooks up his next computer to the same
internet account.

Actually having the hardware could make it possible to impersonate the other guy
but you would have to use the same physical connection and do it before he
registers a replacement computer with the ISP. In other words, you would have to
get close enough to be caught in order to try it.
another 'great' post saved for posterity via this quote....

Orange is obviously a bit confused....and you are not even close to understanding where he/she is coming from....

he's thinking an IP address is somehow correlated to ones hardware, which its not for what he is thinking...though technically it is, as the MAC address of the NIC card and modem is associated in a way with the MAC address....if one changes a NIC card or modem then one will immediately get a new IP addy...in fact if you don't power down a modem when connecting a different computer (note I am not referring to a router here) then the new computer will not connect to the internet as the modem expects to be seeing the MAC address of the old machine....once powered down the new computer will connect to the net and one will have a different IP addy....

as a note it is illegal to harvest MAC address, though hackers do it all the time and I'm sure many websites do it also...that is a 'true' way to identify a machine in specific, and it is also a way to illegally hound a person across the net as while you IP addy may change, the MAC addresses particular to specific hardware will not (unless the hardware is changed out)....
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This quote is what I am replying to, not the rest of his post.
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And if I want my enemy to get arrested all I have to do is buy his old but registered computer, not change the address, download and share CP then watch the cops fruitlessly raid his home.

I actually hope I'm wrong on all this, that my privacy can't be invaded that easily but with the web site I referred to the scenario is realistic. Show me how I'm wrong. Please
ISP's do work with MAC addresses and assign IP addresses to MAC
addresses as they are found on the network. Telus, for example, allows advanced
users to manually register two MAC addresses for each DSL account.

So, in order to impersonate another user on a typical broadband connection you
need three things, the right MAC address, physical access to the same line and
the opportunity to use both of those quickly enough to fool the ISP and any
potential investigators. The odds are strongly against it and the risk of being
caught in the attempt is high. It could also be done if the victim has an unsecured
wireless router but that circumstance also gives said victim a plausible defence.
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Hush, please.

No need to go fighting.

@Orange County: Main question: Which kind of IP do you have?

There are two different ways IPs are given out.

In the USA many people have stable IPs. Those remain the same every time you connect to the internet. For this the USA uses most of the available IP addresses. That's called static IP.

Therefore, in the rest of the world, most people only get their IP assigned, when they connect to the internet, and lose it once they disconnect, because there weren't enough IP addresses left for all. That's called dynamic IP.

If you have a static IP, it is like a phone number.

If you have a dynamic IP, it is just a temporary number, but the ISPs know, who had it at any time (in Germany up to 3 months back).
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So, in order to impersonate another user on a typical broadband connection you
need three things, the right MAC address, physical access to the same line and
the opportunity to use both of those quickly enough to fool the ISP and any
potential investigators. The odds are strongly against it and the risk of being
caught in the attempt is high. It could also be done if the victim has an unsecured
wireless router but that circumstance also gives said victim a plausible defence.
And if you go that far, you can just break into his house, hope that his computer is connected and then just use his original connection
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…and if one was using it to get porn and got caught,
it would probably be literally with his pants down.
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