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Old December 28th, 2005
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What does the LW Admins do about Users who shares Child Porn? I got a chock today when i found a user, who got like 1036 illegal files with Child porn. Personally I think its the most disgusting harms of action to commit irl. If u dont do anything about the illegal activities on LW i need to know why, because i rather call the FBI or other autorities to stop that kind of dirty actions!
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Hi Sumpchild. You are not alone in being utterly digusted by Child Porn, and without going into a tirade against the *******s who pedal and create the stuff, these are the facts concerning Limewire.

Limewire connects users overe the Gnutella p2p network. Users can offer for download by others anything they like. Music pictures videos and so on . Limewire has absolutely no control over what is offered, and if they had they would have gone the way of the original Napster and Grockster. The fact that Limewire operates differently from them is one reason that Limewire, fortunately still exists.

Users can do something about Child Porn and calling the FBI is not a bad idea. The ip numbers of the child porn peddlars are shown along with their shared files and these can be tracked. If you chose search above right and search for "kiddie porn" or "child porn" You will find more information on exactly who it is best to report such cases to.

As I have said, this is not something Limewire can do anything about, due to the way it operates, but in this forum, as far as many of us are concerned the more that we can do to put child Porn merchants behind bars, the better.
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How do you what it is without downloading it? If you have downloaded it, then bad news for you: The FBI is going to arrest you within the next few days. Have you considered that the FBI is actively sharing archive material on Gnutella to capture lolipedo-fins?

Besides, the IP addresses shown for search results are far from being any evidence. The only way to find out who really shares something, is to download a file and *then* check the IP address. However, due to the vast amount of hijacked machines nowadays, it is not so unlikely that the uploading party is just a victim and not even aware of sharing or possessing these files. There have been exactly such cases even before Gnutella existed. Fairly normal people have lost their existence because of false-accusations concerning "child abuse". People are good in jumping to conclusions with any facts at hand.

Using Microsoft Windows whilst being connected to the internet is a modern version of Russian roulette. Unfortunately, most of the time the irresponsible computer are not the ones who are affected by hit. At least I've never heard of anyone losing his job or friends because his computer had been turned into a spam spewer.

I wouldn't suggest to anyone searching for "kiddie porn" or "child porn" anywhere. If you do, expect getting lynched by some random admin or bystander who is on a crusade because you are "obviously" a lolipedo-fin in search of material.

I could be wrong but I would actually assume the vast amount of real (not faked) child porn is produced in Russia or Asian countries, not in the US. That's none of the FBI's business anyway. Last but not least, keep in mind that even if all lolipedo-fins that appear in any available material have been executed/killed/jailed the material will still be available.
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Hyper-kun I agree entirely and personally I would be very wary about reporting any one, and without the evidence a report can not really stand up, and If I was stupid enough to get any evidence on my computer I would eradicate it and eradicate it again before reporting it ... so what the hell do you really do. I'm fairly sure the authorities keep a close watch on the Child porn on p2p and do what they can without the users help, but if I find a situation where I can report a case safely, I will.
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so is it really possible to catch pedophiles ? thats good to hear seeing that these people could take advantage of the whole sharing files thing
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Omg i am so scared, I accidently downloaded a child porn picture ON ACCIDENT! I was downloading a lot of legal adult stuff, but when i opened one of the files it said "you have been pranked by the FBI, have a nice day", so i figured that it must have been child porn. Then when i went back to see the text that comes up after you hold the mouse over the file for a few secs, I was shocked to see that it said all this sick CP stuff. The headline text was completely different! I am now extremely scared that the FBI is going to come knocking on my door or something. Has anybody ever accidently encountered the same problem as me???
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Haven't seen your case before, but don't worry. There are many files that are not what the name suggests.

Just delete the file.
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how can i report files on limewire that had child porn on it?
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Dont. Just stay away from that stuff and let the police do
what they're already doing. If you saw it, they saw it sooner.
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i wouldnt worry about a single image too much, from the news coverage of arrests, it seams that you have to develop a pretty serious 'interest' to attract FBI etc attention, ive never heard of anyone being arrested for accidently downloading one photo, or stumbling onto a website etc.
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most of these are from outside the country and of course america cannot prosacute forighners thats based on there own countrys laws and how messed up they are.
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Dont. Just stay away from that stuff and let the police do
what they're already doing. If you saw it, they saw it sooner.

you answered my post about a month ago-he was the one that had downloaded from limewire and it had some child porn videos and it went through his college's website =they called the police-he got arrested-that was a year ago=we just went to vt for the arraignment and he was charged with 2 counts of child porn -one a video and another a picture and they threw the book at him. he is a kid that is 20 years old has never been in trouble doesn't drink smoke or do drugs but he choices are fight it and maybe go to jail for 5 years or take a deferred setence whch means he goes on probation for 2 years and then it gets erased-but during those 2 years he is a convicted felone and would have to register as a sex offender -we live in nm now and if he decided to do the probation out her that sex offender record would follow him for the rest of his life. he is not a sex offender or a pedophile he is a studpid kid that made a stupid mistake but that mistake may have ruined his life forever before he even got to have one.
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They didn't throw the book at him. They don't have the authority. Only a
judge or jury can do that, and in this case it looks like a jury is the way to go.

I'd fight it, and make sure the newspapers see how the prosecutor and police
are behaving. The purpose of any real prosecution is to bring criminals
to justice, not rack up notches on the old gunbelt by going after kids who fall
afoul of politicized causes by accident.

The balance in a criminal case is whether or not there is a reasonable doubt,
so don't let those scumbags tell you that "confessing" falsely is in any way the
right thing to do.

Dollars to donuts there's an election coming up, isn't there? Get the reporters
to draw recollection to that prosecutor in that Duke University bogus r4pe
case. Get the judge to put a publication ban on the boy's identity and go for
the throat of those guys while the odds are with you. Don't let them trick you
into silence for any reason. Take advantage of the privacy the judge
gives you to put their faces on papers and TV as many times as you
can. Even if the judge refuses a publication ban, don't hesitate to go to war.

Don't get scared. Get angry. They're going for an easy victim, so you go for blood.
Remind them of the stakes and make sure they know you are more determined
to fight their crime than they are to manufacture one for their own
benefit. They may have money but you have the time and genuinely care,
and that's your advantage.

Of course, get a lawyer to see if the above advice will work in your state.
Some of them are still in the stone age when it comes to real justice.

There's your pep talk, now find a lawyer who agrees with it. Start with the
law students at your boy's college and they'll get things rolling for free and
help you find a defender who values justice over money.

Have fun, and good hunting.
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Thank You So Much For Responding And I Do Have A Lawyer In Vt Where It Happened And Nm Where We Live. The Vt Lawyer Sucks But The Nm One May Be Able To Help Us I Am Into This So Far For 20,000. I Read The Police Report And The Charges. They Say He Has A 14 Minute Video And A Picture--again Only 2 Counts -i Am Sure They Can Prove That But It Was Something He Got Off Of Limewire When He Was Downloading Regular Porn--just Like All The Other Posts Talk About When You Search For Reular Porn You Get Kiddie Porn And In My Son's Case It May Have Ruined His Life-
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Janegb88

First of all, I would like to wish you and your family all the best as you go through this tough time of trying to rescue your son from his moment of thoughtlessness.

Secondly, I am not a US citizen and so not familiar with US law but here in the UK the law is based on intent, meaning that you intended to do what you did (there is some fancy Latin name for this). Now consider this, as lots of files on the P2P network have been deliberately misnamed, by who no one knows, and so by checking the names on these illegal files it can be shown that your son was not after them but really after legal files. And also most experienced P2P/Limewire users will tell you that most of the time we don’t really know what we are downloading until it’s downloaded or take special precautions (such as Bitzy).

Therefore, if what you say is true, it would be hard pushed for any (proper) legal system to convict on what was an accidental download.

Another small thing to remember, whenever you download stuff USING Limewire you are actually downloading from other P2P users individual PCs, and possibly servers, and P2P users live all over the world.

Anyway, hope your authorities see sense and drop this case against a clearly naive youngster.



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