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January 11th, 2002
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 Theatrical Marketing New Releases I head theatrical marketing and I have a movie for one of the top 3 studios Summer 2002. I know that I am going to get ripped within 12 hours or less on this sci fi thriller. Well, I have 2 months of viral and cool action promos all over the nation on this Spider attack thriller for teens and young ghoulies...so, help me, how can I harness the power of peer to peer for 2 months leading up to the release, I get ripped off, but my marketing through peer to peer makes the viewer run from the laptop to the big screen for better viewing and a chance to meet a good looking babe or two...so, I would rather play, beat Blair Witch in viral marketing, and join the team
__________________ Brian Theriot NextLeft Vice President, Theatrical Marketing, Youth and Family Marketing  |
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January 12th, 2002
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| Basically get a Gnutella client and share the file. The better the connection the client has to the network the more people will be able to find your file. I would recommend putting it on a T line and keeping about 15 or 20 connections up. If you have a firewall be sure to forward port 6346 and enter your IP into the client. |
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January 12th, 2002
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| Theatrical Marketing Peer to Peer Okay, I have a response from a king user that has said how to send my movie over this gnutella network...this cannot happen. Let me explain, and I am very well known in toys and games, bringing all of you the POG Craze in milkcaps heading the World POG Federation...yes those pog milkcaps, I launched Crazy Bones which is still a big hit in toys...and I gave you the Fingerboard craze with the Fingerboard trademark...not Tech Deck, the real Fingerboard you had in McDonald's...Summer 2000...POG was also with McDonald's early 90's as was Crazy Bones...I am a viral marketing expert in youth and family markets...I go where most agencies do not understand...so, I understand this peer to peer system and I know full well that it is completely legal until the theatres go to a metal detector system and no electronic devices, night vision monitors, and anti-terrorist systems that will come...the regulations will come in the form of health, safety, and welfare given 9/11 and we will have the federal government outfitting theatres at government expense and the studios will benefit from not having the movies filmed...but, I am willing to not fight now and market the aspects of my studio's movie 8 weeks prior to release so this network will not have it, feed hidden cuts, showcase live promos, and give this network and all its users reasons to see the movie on the big screen even after you have seen it on the computer...I need to create awareness, show you the most massive viral promotion ever in studio marketing that I identfied as the hottest environs for the #4 sport in America with markets that cater to teens and adults to age 34. My movie hits late August and it is a PG13 thriller...So, I want everyone to be involved peer to peer...we know many will see it for free on these systems...hey, I am willing to play this game and see if I can still market peer to peer and play with the viral markets rather than fight it...am I allowed to share secret cuts, star interviews, show my live promos from around the U.S.? Second, what is the percentage of teens and young adults that watch for free and then go to the big screen to see it again with better sound, a night out, etc.. My name is Brian Theriot...if you google me you will note that I am one of the country's best middle distance runners in the 80's - 81, 83, 84, 85...3:56 for the mile and 1:45 for 800 meters...former UCLA team captain and NCAA Champ...I sold 70 million dollars of POG in 94 via viral marketing and just finished the Mattel world champs for the board game Othello....see www.mattelothello.com and visit the world champ results in NYC. So, I am asking all in this viral world..should I convince my number one studio to consider playing rather than ignoring or fighting...and, would you find it interesting if I restricted all of my feeds to this viral world...what would you peer to peer users expect in return for entering your world where corporate interference is not embraced...I am the real deal and you can call me at my office: 310-477-7198 or by cell: 949-632-4650...my goal...show my studio that the viral world is a play that should be made and not waste all the marketing dollars on TV and print...Please, this is the real deal and I will be the first ever to have a studio embark on this trek... 
__________________ Brian Theriot NextLeft Vice President, Theatrical Marketing, Youth and Family Marketing |
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January 12th, 2002
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| Huh? OK, I'm lost. What exactly are you asking. |
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January 12th, 2002
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| theatrical marketing Issue: can a movie studio promote its film P2P knowing that once the film hits the screens it will be video taped and shown p2p. So, what is the value of promoting the release upcoming via file sharing p2p say: special clips not appearing in the final movie, reasons to see it on the big screen even if you plan to see if for free p2p, promotions about the movie and how to get involved to win prizes and trips, incentive to see it on the big screen, and more..
__________________ Brian Theriot NextLeft Vice President, Theatrical Marketing, Youth and Family Marketing |
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January 13th, 2002
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| King User...hmmm...I like that! Look to the left under my name. Now as for your question. I don' think many of us here will be able to help you strategize your promotions. We are programmers and music thieves, not marketers. I can say that as a teenager, if I see a trailer or crappy video taped copy on Gnutella, and it looks good, I'll be more inclined to see it in a theater. I mean watching a movie on a 15 in. LCD isn't the greatest experience. Although I have a TV out port on my video card and will hook it up to a TV in the near future, I would still rather see it on a huge movie theatre screen than on a TV. Assuming I believe you are who you say you are. Would you like to buy my big bucket of POGs back? I was the right age at the right time to dump my hard earned cash into those $0.25 pieces of cardboard. If I think back, I think I was in like 3rd grade. I won most of my friends POGs. I played this one kid who must have been like 2 or 3 years older than me. I could tell he was thinking, "this is gonna be easy". Boy was he wrong, he lost like 3 or 4 games in a row. I asked him if he wanted to quit, and with his friends standing bye, trying to avoid the humiliation of loosing to a 3rd grader, he kept playing. After I won about 50 of his POG he left teary eyed. The next day I got called to the principle office. I was scared to death. The principle asked if I had won his POGs fair and square. I said, yes. he said OK and let me go. The next day on morning announcements they said POGs were banned. About a month later the fad faded to an end. |
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January 13th, 2002
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| One more thing. What would the name of this new 'movie' be? |
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January 13th, 2002
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| movie marketing Very nice response from King User and candid...yes, I know I am going to get ripped on the movie...my promos run for 8 weeks in parks around the U.S...I cannot tell you the name of the movie because when I hit all the P2P users I do not want you all to know that corporate America is hitting you again..,.first I must convince my client studio... I wil recommend 30 sets of users to infiltrate the system with cool files...teams of 10 that will que each other challenge others , show promos, and give you all the feel that some footage is by theft...when really I supplied it and I promise you will enjoy the ride I give you...Yes, I am the World POG Federation founder and you must know that I get testy when you add an S to the name POG...it is a trademark and go to that bucket you have and if it does not say POG on the front or the back...well...as we said...put it back in the stack Jack...you will remember my Disney promo in park, Knott's, McDonald's, and more...I was on QVC for months selling those little goodies...hang onto them if they say POG...right now Frito Lay is running a Tazos promo as Tazos is the other name for milkcaps in Mexico...give me a call at my office on Monday: 31--477-7198...ext. 52...I am who I am and google Brian Theriot miler or Brian Theriot 800 meter runner or hell, call me on my cell... I cannot tell you my movie name...but I will enjoy sharing your honesty, really... You will love my promos...they will be in paintball parks all over America...never been done before in movie promotions...I locked up the major parks and the major maker of paintball markers...that is a clue to the movie...you will dig it...
__________________ Brian Theriot NextLeft Vice President, Theatrical Marketing, Youth and Family Marketing |
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January 13th, 2002
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| Hi, this is Trademark95 I changed my name. Sorry for saying “POGs” instead of “POG”. LEGO got mad at me once for saying legos instead of LEGO Bricks (must be in all caps and not plural)
__________________ Michael Camilleri Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy |
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January 13th, 2002
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| So your going to put the footage up but make us think we are stealing it? Might I ask why?
__________________ Michael Camilleri Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy |
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January 13th, 2002
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| Theatrical Marketing King User: No, I do not want you to think that YOU are stealing it. The actual theft of my movie will come on release night...or sooner if some insider at the studio gets at one of my test screenings or the premier night. P2P is not theft it is sharing. The theft occurs by the one person from the very start. After that, you are merely sharing information. Theft is an intentional act. Proving intent beyond point one is the mistake that many at my level make. I certainly do not want the P2P users knowing that my campaign is planned. So, I will create teams and the teams will mimi the personalities most likely to occur in chat rooms with questions in tech...then the teams will eventually lead to music debates, and then to...hey did you see this....and secret blurry looking unseen images will be shared about my movie..covert stuff...with bundling links to offers from Team A which will be the corporate team and the p2p users will distrust this white collar crew.. the buzz....like it
__________________ Brian Theriot NextLeft Vice President, Theatrical Marketing, Youth and Family Marketing |
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January 13th, 2002
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| Viral marketing. That's always tricky to get it started. First thing is that you have to ensure that what you release on the P2P network is going to stay legal to transfer from user to user, even after the release. For example, trailers or scenes to which you have explicit rights to distribute (either by copyright, license, contract, etc). Granted, there's no guarantee that someone will *not* rip your movie and distribute it on P2P networks, however, that's a different aspect of what you are trying to accomplish. When you want to encourage people to download a movie clip, you first need to entice them to download it. "Secretive" things work for one instance. Use filenames with "never released scenes", " 'stolen' outtakes", "bloopers they won't show you". Sex,will "sell", especially in the age range you're looking at. Perhaps add a little "spice" to the filenames (and/or scenes). Like "movie star (almost) nude", "cut sex scene", "**** shown (blooper)". They don't have to be 100% accurate in describing the content. Any person will exaggerate a bit to get his/her files to download. And once a person downloads it, and they share it, the cycle begins. What kind of things should you show. Well, a theatrical trailer is indeed not a bad option. Cust scenes with some rave reviews are good too. Or perhaps, the first few minutes of the actual movie and then *bam*, it ends with "to see more, visit your local theatre coming August 2002!". Yeah, it'll get some annoyed. But when is someone not annoyed? But you *do* have to keep in mind to keep it as honest as possible too. So you don't want to use descriptions for the movie clip that is *completely* false. People have a tendency to delete those from their system. And if they start seeing a pattern, they'll also start to figure which movie clips *not* to download in future. You mentioned contest. Now, this is something you can add to entice P2P distribution. For example: "Find this movie clip on this P2P network, and get a chance to win $1,000!". Within that movie clip, it explains how you can enter to win. Since it is "easy" to find a movie clip on P2P networks, you'll know people will go for it. Obviously, by law, you are required to pay such prized ;-) Just some ideas to run past you.
__________________ Okay, so I've been gone a while - but hey, meanwhile online translators have gotten better: Ce n'est pas ma faute. Blâmer vous-même. ---- Ne me blâmez pas. Blâment votre individu. |
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January 13th, 2002
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| Theatrical Releases Thank You for the key input... My client is a part of the movement to move to VOD. That is fine. But, having launched 4 wonderful crazes in POG, Crazy Bones, Fingerboard, and a part of the Razor...not all...craze...it is a challenging task... P2P is not going to stop ...the gates are open...so I believe that my promotions offline will be virally enhanced with online activity such as P2P...I mean really, when was the last time you heard a teen say: "Hey, did you see that great birdhouse skate design on the net...."...."Hey, did you see that cool Volcom shirt on MTV.com???..." The key is viral offline to viral online and reverse with incentives, tricks, clues, and just plain giving the feeling to all the target audience members that either corporate america is toying with them or they are toying with corporate america...as I said to my client the other day...we can join them now...win or lose in court later....let us explore this world and be a part of the movement ... My thanks..if I can ever do anything for any of you please call...toys, games, movies, consumer products.... We will have a great time this Summer 2002...and I am sure we will continue to converse...I am new to this world of Gnutella as I have 4 kids....this came my way because he too plays P2P...can I attach files to these emails...I have no idea if I can...
__________________ Brian Theriot NextLeft Vice President, Theatrical Marketing, Youth and Family Marketing |
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January 14th, 2002
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 Some comments Hey there! I think King User and cultiv8r got some interesting point I agrre with. Only some thought from my point of view: Quote:
Smaller trailers with "faked" names will be downloaded more often I guess, just because of their size. If you have to pay for your online time (many ppl in Europe do) it gets very expensive and you do not want to download something you don't know or like... Probably it is also an idea to print somethink like "Now available in P2P networks (Gnutella, Napster,...)!" on the normal print media's adds. Together with your servents IP address? So people would know where to connect to and that they can download the file. So you get a coupling of print media adds and "adds" in a P2P network. If your target viewers are between 14-30 years old I guess this would work, at least they would know what you have been talking about  The you can also publish trailers with real names.If ppl like it they will also download the movie once it it released I am shure. Faked names will of course leed to downloading the file and you will reach many ppl with it... but will you probably discourage from watching the movie since they always got that %$%&& movie traiuler when they tried to download something else? Also a serious image is better preserved when you use "real" file names. Quote:
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January 14th, 2002
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| Yeah, I can't play DivX in my standalone DVD-Player on my big TV and also get no Surround Sound. When converting DivX to SVCD, I gain crappy quality compared to DivX or DVD quality and still have no surround. So if you're a cineastic, you eigther visit your local cinema or buy DVDs... I do both. Perhaps we get DivX with Dolby Surround soon? |
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