OpenSource P2P Net Discussion Thread

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OpenSource P2P Net Info and IP posts

Respectfully, I don't understand why you are trashing on this when it's only a day old. I spent the time to modify, test and re-compile Gnucleus to do this. I took the time to set up a web site with docs to give it distribution. I posted a patch to Swabby so he can mod Gnucleus.
I am busy figuring out a new way to do a host cache on my web site and will have to spend the time making Gnucleus connect to it.
I don't see how the "GnutellaDev Community" will stop the commercialization of Gnutella. We have to move off of it because the commercial interests won't.
Don't you consider me as a part of that Community? Is there a chance I can program in C++ ? Have a little respect please.
This is your chance to get rid of the greed on Gnutella, don't blow it.
If the "GnutellaDev Community" adds the ability in their clients to do this, the OpenSource P2P Net will give them a place to go and it has a rule to keep greed off.
Why not support this and the new GnutellaDev IRC channel at the same time? Where's your node?
Until the developers change and release new versions, this modified one will do.
Did you read the previous posts about this? It explains why this is needed in more detail.
I am happy the developers are off of the_gdf, now they need to move off of commercialized Gnutella.
Gnutella can be a protocol name, not a network. I don't see a need to throw out a perfectly good protocol at this point, and the existing code that works so well.
This is your chance to really do something about the greed that has slipped in.
It's easier than setting up and running a IRC client! And you can run both! Plus right now the bandwidth is nil so jump on board!

Originally posted by Phantom81
Do you really believe through recompiling a client and setting this thread you can solve all of our problems?

and: do you think this IRC channel is the only thing we have at the moment?

No, there's already much more.
There's a new community waking up.
People like Moak, Morgwen, godxblue(peeranha), KathW, raphael, oovermars (gnucleus), tremix, etc, etc, etc are there and it will be much more in the future!

Then, there's a mailing list.

Also, godx started (and continued!) with an improved protocol.
And Moak's 0.7 proposal is in discussion

if you'd be on this IRC channel, you would know that, and you'd not be alone trying something

I don't want to further influence you. Do what you believe. If you think it's best splitting the network into gnutella and opensource, do that, in my opinion, the new GnutellaDev Community (name is 90% sure) will be more efficient than the old Vinnie-ruled GDF where the "improvements" are like monarchy (eat or die)...


i think you should at least have a try

I think it's a great idea, but your headers should give some sort of helpful ID.

This is just general good network behaviou.

Instead of OPENSOURCE CONNECT why not .. well just about anything

OPENGNUTELLA CONNECT

CONNECT FREEGNUTELLA

whatever, just make it informative.

This should take off, because there are SO MANY gnutella users, and the gnutella network has the limited horizon, which means even if I am on the 'real' gnutella network, I can actually only search a small subset of all users.

So to get comparable performance on this network (ignoring performance hitches caused by anticompetitive commercial clients!) we only need to <I>convert</I> a small subset of the 'real' gnutella users to opensource p2p.

It looks like the changes should be real easy to implement - I'm not a C programmer, but I think I can hack gtk-gnutella tonight when I get home!

If I succeed, I'll post some source somewhere.

Use me as a static host cache!!
24.234.19.159:6347
This is a static IP and should be good for a long time!
I put it on an old computer so I never will turn it off except if it crashes.
About 1500 files on there too.

I show 45 Gigabytes available now

What the .. !

I see quite a few bears in my search results. What's going on?

If someone has hacked a bear to connect to opensource P2P, they better bloody well have ahcked out it's preferential treatment to other bears!

Own up! Own up, I say!

Do limey's prefer limeys?

[mrgone4662]

Originally posted by Unregistered
What the .. !

I see quite a few bears in my search results. What's going on?

If someone has hacked a bear to connect to opensource P2P, they better bloody well have ahcked out it's preferential treatment to other bears!

Own up! Own up, I say!

Sounds like the only thing that this modification blocked was the ability for bs users to download from you.

Congratulations, you are now a proud freeloader off, not the people who made bs, but users just like you.

Sorry, one step at a time, the client isn't fully blocking yet. Took long enough to set all this up to get it started. It's not a big problem right now. Just roll with it and keep posting those IPs, it gets better from here!

New project site at Sourceforge! "Official" home page
http://opensourcep2p.sourceforge.net/

Project page is
http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensourcep2p/

Thanks for participating in the new OpenSource P2P Net!

Note: If you lose all connections, type a IP from the forum into the "Connections Advanced" box and click "Add". Once you type the IP in it will stay in the little box and you can just click "Add" again if you lose it again. Stick with it!

[mrgone4662]

Originally posted by Anonnn
Sorry, one step at a time, the client isn't fully blocking yet.

So you came on here misrepresenting what your client was doing with the intention of getting people to freeload on the gnutella network. Does that about sum it up?

sooner or later someone leaches something from someone else, bearshare leached off gnutella .56 to get started then limewire then the rest
napster leached off the recording artists, then kazza then morpheus
the difference is bearshare, limewire and the rest made bucks from it all
whenever political change happens it raises the worst in people, and a lot of nit picking
change is hard to accept

[Morgwen]

Originally posted by Unregistered
change is hard to accept

I think not!

But if you really want to freeload from the clients, this isn´t much better what they are doing! So if you think you need changes block them totally not only in one way - now you can accept YOUR change!

Morgwen

Could this be why there's lots of BS, LW, MRPH etc clients?

The hostcache(s) is/are polluted by ordinary gnutella clients.

This is because people running opensource p2p were previously running gnutella, and are targetted by pings from gnutella clients who have their ip and port number from say yesterday.

The solution is for EVERY user of opensource to ensure that they use a different port number than they used for gnutella.

And I guess it means starting a new fresh hostcache from scratch - it won't just evolve to lost these clients, I think.

But I'm not sure if this is right. If these are gnutella clients, they are gnutella clients which don't discriminate against clients with incorrect handshake IDs.

Does this make sense? Or are there just a whole lot of people who've hacked their LW, BS etc clients?

How do I use telnet (or wget or something) to grab a connect id from an IP?

[Morgwen]

Originally posted by Unregistered
The solution is for EVERY user of opensource to ensure that they use a different port number than they used for gnutella.

You can use a different port of course but you are still connected with Gnutella or do you think only because you changed the port you have a new net?

Morgwen