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Well, I might have a problem since my

Received incoming this session = false

But I haven't changed anything since the earlier version - still have the same ADSL "modem," same ISP, firewall in Mac is off. I never checked the true/false thing before, so I have no idea if that is different. How in the hell am I supposed to change this? I'm forcing my IP and I've tried changing the ports. Also, btw, I'm sharing about 700 files, so it's not a leech issue.

I cannot imagine my ISP choking P2P, since it is a Dutch ISP that has gone to court to protect the identities of thier users in the past, on a number of issues. The ONLY flexibility they have is in cooperating with authorities on the possibility of kiddie porn. In addition, they link to LimeWire from their homepage, so I doubt they're the problem.

I'm d/l Acquisition now and am curious to see how it works.

Thanks for the replies and I'll let you know what (if anything) I discover.

Jeebus, I want my 3.8 version back!
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Techwomyn: if you have a router you have to play with port forwarding (on the web interface of the router ie from your browser). Also the incomimg test has to be performed a few minutes after LW is running so LW has time to test your connection. Redo the test now.

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I was getting great DL the first couple weeks of me getting my cable connection, but then it has stopped (I thought it was on account of me turning on the firewall for a bit. Maybe not.)
Are you suggesting that my ISP just started throttling p2p a week ago? Well, thanks for the info. I'll try and call their tech support and find out.
I'm rural and they are the only game in town.

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Jeebus, I want my 3.8 version back!
Tech... I reinstalled 3.8 (had to do it on a different volume) and still got the same results.
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Tolman, unless what et voilà says about ISP choking P2p and such is true (for you), then try the following: as your upload speed is 128kbps, set the meter between 10,48 and 12KBps, put (for starters) 10 upload slots and increase the number of simultaneous dlds to 25. Now, look for a file that is popular enough and dld it: stop any other dlds and dld just that one file. Give it some time to connect to the other peers.
I hope that this makes a change.

btw, I had no idea that OSX 10.3.4 has a built-in firewall (like XP)... Well, well, we learn something new everyday...
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Techwomyn

Airport documents/fixes dominate Apple's tech articles recently
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75185
Maybe some of these will apply to your situation.

You are still asking for an older version???? I posted a link in my earlier post

Tolman--
incoming=true is correct, and eliminates any upstream blocks like the firewall as the problem.
To eliminate user pref problems
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151701
shows how to create a new Admin user. This will virtually isolate all your former prefs, so if you install a fresh LW in this new account and see the same problem, then you know the problem is outside of your Home folder.
You are using the ethernet port, right? Some ADSL equipment uses the USB port, which is inadequate on OSX for the number of connections needed for p2p apps.

btw--good luck getting an accurate answer from tech support. At my ISP, even the head of the help desk didn't know for months that the internet guys were experimenting with p2p traffic controls.
(CISCO router's NBAR features, and a trial of Sandvine software). No malice was involved--hell, they were ready to dig up and replace my cable--the helpers were just unaware. jum, et voilà, trap_jaw and the LW devs helped me get the data I needed to reliably show the problem.

Murasame--the upload bandwidth controls don't affect the download speeds, and the Tip of the Day in the LW Help menu has all the details on the OSX firewall.
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Aaaaah yes. And I thought something was missing. Stupid me had it disabled before updating (I had seen all of the tips anyway) and forgot to reset them after updating my version. I guess I figured they didn't bother to change the tips.
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Oh, and for the upload bandwidth, I know that it won't affect dld speed: that's the reason why ISP advertise connections with both dld and upload bandwidths. I just told Tolman to put it to a decent place (according to his connection) so that other peers won't suffer.

As a side note, I heard that the number of peers you upload to does (in a more indirect manner though) affect your speed, since connecting to them may also mean connecting to the peers that they are connected to and so on.
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the upload bandwidth controls don't affect the download speeds
False. In the case that uploads take all available bandwidth, dls will be slower. Http connections need confirmation that packets are being received, thus some upload bandwidth has to be left to continue dl full speed. Do a test: upload full speed then browse the internet: it will be really slow. Cut the bandwidth by 3-4 KB/s and everything will be fast again.

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Airport documents/fixes dominate Apple's tech articles recently
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75185
Maybe some of these will apply to your situation.

You are still asking for an older version???? I posted a link in my earlier post
Sorry stief, I should have responded earlier. I did go to the link you provided, but unfortunately there are no LW 3.8.x downloads for OSX. Earliest I could find was 3.9. Tried that but no luck.

I'll check out the Airport info as well. Thanks!
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btw--the old free installers for all platforms are stuffed into one large archive (~70mb). http://www9.limewire.com:82/download/ has the 3.8.10 and .11 installers.

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