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| The answer to this question requires a bit of background in Java, which is the language that LimeWire is written in... Java programs run in what's called a "Java Virtual Machine" (JVM). The JVM reads the code that makes up LimeWire and tells your computer what to do. This means that LimeWire (and all Java programs) can be run on any operating system that has a JVM. One of the recent additions to JVMs is what's called a "Just-In-Time Compiler" (JIT). This is something that, while running a program, optimizes and converts the java bytecode into native machine code. The addition technically came when Java 1.2 was introduced, but a JIT was backported by Symantec to Apple for Java 1.1.8 on Mac Classics. Unfortunately, this JIT becomes very buggy as the language is pushed to its limits. It was causing many problems that destabilized LimeWire and caused errors that are generally impossible. Prior to the release of 3.6.15, the JIT was stopping LimeWire from even starting. (Instead, a message popped up saying there was a bug in the JIT and that Symantec should be notified.) Thus, in order to keep LimeWire running, we had to disable the JIT on Mac Classic. The result of this is that LimeWire runs slower, because the JVM is constantly converting the java bytecode into machine code instead of remembering and optimizing it. We'll look into determining if it's possible to turn the JIT back on, but it is going to be difficult to do. Thanks. Last edited by sberlin : December 28th, 2003 at 08:38 PM. |
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| You can attempt to speed up LimeWire by enabling the JIT yourself. This can be done by opening up the file "LimeWire.lax" in any text editor. (LimeWire.lax can be found in the same folder that the LimeWire program is in.) Look for the line that reads: lax.nl.macos.java.compiler=off and insert a '#' before it, so it reads: #lax.nl.macos.java.compiler=off Then save the file and start up LimeWire. I cannot guarantee that LimeWire will continue to work. But if it does, it will be a little faster. |
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| It has an effect, Morgwen. The large number of complaints about the speed of LimeWire 3.6.15 is because it is the first released version that we disabled the JIT for Mac Classics. I personally see a huge difference in file verification times (even running in Classic environment on a souped up powerbook) with the JIT turned on vs off. |
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| You can attempt to speed up LimeWire by enabling the JIT yourself. This can be done by opening up the file "LimeWire.lax" in any text editor. (LimeWire.lax can be found in the same folder that the LimeWire program is in.) Look for the line that reads: lax.nl.macos.java.compiler=off and insert a '#' before it, so it reads: #lax.nl.macos.java.compiler=off Then save the file and start up LimeWire. I cannot guarantee that LimeWire will continue to work. But if it does, it will be a little faster. "You sir, are an absolute genius. I tried the above suggestion, it took about 15 seconds to do, and it works perfectly. Now my filesharing works perfectly, file verification and saving are much faster, and the whole program is more responsive. In my 8 or so years of using computers I have never seen anything that created such an improvement with so little effort. Thanks a lot. " |
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| Well i put the # into the LimeWire.lax as suggested on my 7500 machine under OS9.2.2 and guess what? It's a hell of a lot better, button respond quicker, still room for improvement, the verifying is speedy, sticks at certain stages, then zooms up and done in just a few |
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| sberlin: THANK YOU for your explanation and instructions to reenable the JIT! I hadn't been suffering the failure-to-start problem, so ever since the JIT was disabled by default, Limewire's hashing thread -- and by extension Limewire itself -- had become almost completely useless (several hours to hash a 40-megabyte file, and no, that's not an exaggeration.) Reenabling the JIT hashed that 40-megabyte file in less than a minute. I'm on a 233 MHz G3 Powerbook, with 384 MB of ram. I think the JIT is more valuable on old machines than you believe it is! |
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| mm just wundering when the prob whith the code hapens becuse it must to have bean a big prob or it wudent have bean ternd off just wunderd befor i try it dose the prob only start after a whyel or strat away or when |
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| Hello. I'm using Limewire 3.4.5 on an iMac 233. I located the limewire.lax text document, but cannot locate the line you mentioned in order to make the suggeted modification. The text I located begins with "# LaunchAnywhere (tm) Executable Properties File - Zero G Software, Inc." Are you referring to a different version of Limewire, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks. |
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| I downloaded the newer version, as you suggested, and made the recommended change to the .lax file. It then took 3 minutes to open the 3.8.6 version of the program. Is that normal? I am running 0S 9.2 on a 233 iMac. Thanks. |
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| I'm using the new LW 4.0.3 on Mac OS 9.2.2, tell me where to look for the line to change lax.nl.macos.java.compiler=off to #lax.nl.macos.java.compiler=off, I can't find it, even with a word search. And my downloads are slow as molasses on this. This is my limewire.lax file. # LaunchAnywhere (tm) Executable Properties File - Zero G Software, Inc. # LAX.APPLICATION.NAME # -------------------- # the default name of this executable -- do not edit lax.application.name=LimeWire # LAX.CLASS.PATH # -------------- # the Java classpath necessary to run this application # Can be separated by colons (Mac OS/Unix) or semicolons (Windows) lax.class.path=MessagesBundles.jar:jl011.jar:swing .jar:xerces.jar:LimeWire.jar:logicrypto.jar:collec tions.jar:themes.jar:ProgressTabs.jar:mp3sp14.jar: icu4j.jar:i18n.jar:commons-logging.jar:commons-httpclient.jar:id3v2.jar:lax.jar # LAX.COMMAND.LINE.ARGS # --------------------- # what will be passed to the main method -- be sure to quote arguments with spaces in them lax.command.line.args=$CMD_LINE_ARGUMENTS$ # LAX.DIR # ------- # path to directory holding LaunchAnywhere's native launcher lax.dir=/Macintosh HD/Applications (Mac OS 9)/LimeWire/ # LAX.MAIN.CLASS # -------------- # the class that contains the main method for the application lax.main.class=com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.Main # LAX.MAIN.METHOD # --------------- # the method in the main class that will be invoked lax.main.method=main # LAX.NL.CURRENT.VM # ----------------- # the VM to use for the next launch lax.nl.current.vm= # LAX.NL.JAVA.LAUNCHER.MAIN.CLASS # ------------------------------- # main class of LaunchAnywhere's java launcher -- do not adjust lax.nl.java.launcher.main.class=com.zerog.lax.LAX # LAX.NL.JAVA.LAUNCHER.MAIN.METHOD # -------------------------------- # main method of LaunchAnywhere's java launcher -- do not adjust lax.nl.java.launcher.main.method=main # LAX.NL.JAVA.OPTION.ADDITIONAL # ----------------------------- # Java command-line arguments added verbatim to the command line. lax.nl.java.option.additional=-Dorg.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons .logging.impl.NoOpLog -Djava.endorsed.dirs= lax.nl.java.option.java.heap.size.initial=20000000 lax.nl.java.option.java.heap.size.max=120000000 # LAX.NL.JAVA.OPTION.JAVA.STACK.SIZE.MAX # -------------------------------------- # Set the Java stack size to 64K lax.nl.java.option.java.stack.size.max=65536 # LAX.NL.VALID.VM.LIST # -------------------- # a string containing one or more of [ ALL JDK JRE J1 J2 JRE_J1 JDK_J1 JRE_J2 JDK_J2 MSJ MRJ ] # delimited by spaces or commas. If the native launcher cannot find the current vm, # it will search for ones in this list lax.nl.valid.vm.list=JRE_J2 JDK_J2 MRJ # LAX.NL.WIN32.MICROSOFTVM.MIN.VERSION # ------------------------------------ # The minimum version of Microsoft's VM this application will run against lax.nl.win32.microsoftvm.min.version=2750 # LAX.ROOT.INSTALL.DIR # -------------------- # path to the installdir magic folder lax.root.install.dir=/Macintosh HD/Applications (Mac OS 9)/LimeWire # LAX.STDERR.REDIRECT # ------------------- # leave blank for no input, "console" to read from the console window, # and any path to a file to read from that file lax.stderr.redirect=err.txt # LAX.STDIN.REDIRECT # ------------------ # leave blank for no input, "console" to read from the console window, # and any path to a file to read from that file lax.stdin.redirect= # LAX.STDOUT.REDIRECT # ------------------- # leave blank for no input, "console" to read from the console window, # and any path to a file to read from that file lax.stdout.redirect=out.txt # LAX.USER.DIR # ------------ # left blank, this property will cause the native launcher to not # alter the platform default behavior for setting the user dir. # To override this you may set this property to a relative or absolute path. # Relative paths are relative to the launcher. lax.user.dir=. # LAX.VERSION # ----------- # version of LaunchAnywhere that created this properties file lax.version=5.0 |
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