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March 15th, 2002
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 [quote]Originally posted by backmann [b]I was using Gnotella and had to move to another GNet client because of BS. Enough siad. Ivan Xolox still works... also a 0.4 client! Morgwen
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March 15th, 2002
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| no, u dont get it Gnotella still works fine, just wont connect to BS. By the way, old versions of BS wont connect to the new BS either!!! Quote:
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March 16th, 2002
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| Re: Mad as hell and won't take vinnie anymore! Quote:
Pretty ironic that the only reason you know about clustering or who is connected to who, or what versions of software your hosts are running, is the very program that you are bad mouthing (BearShare). |
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March 16th, 2002
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| Re: Re: Mad as hell and won't take vinnie anymore! Quote:
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March 16th, 2002
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| So if you didn't do that you could keep clustering in secret? Someone finally figured out what you have been doing all this time, Gnutella domination. You should've never added User Agents, your ego told you that no one would ever figure out what sneaky things you were up too, we are all below your IQ anyway and can't figure this out. You screwed up. IQ = IQ - 20; // buzzzzzz - penalty! You are so busted! People had to raise a big stink about your spyware to get it off and it took a lot to just get you to simply warn people about it. You think you would have learned after that, but no. You went on to do other sneaky things. IQ = IQ - 10; // penalty for not learning! You like secrets, spyware, spy packets and your own network, now you have it. Do all the spying, secret cookie watching, kiss RIAA a ss and whatever else you want to do on your own little commercial private network you created. We are all going elsewhere, please stay away, far far away! Quote:
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March 16th, 2002
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| @Unregistered 03-17-2002 i am happy to join any anticommercial, anticlosedsource or antimicrosoft bashing but you should think about your postings 1. get yourself a name and stand for what you say 2. bringt facts, not stupid flaming -> Vinnie is a member of the_gdf, if oyu dont get what that means, i will happily explain 3. in diffrence to another well known client BS does not install ANY spyware if you disable it during setup *cough*limewire*cough*topmoxie*cough 4. i really think gnutella would long be dead without BS and limewire (and i "use" gnutella since 0.56) so how about a little respect? |
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March 18th, 2002
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| For all of the programers out there hate gnutella and want to do something I suggest that you go over to www.freenetproject.org and help out with the most powerful COMMERCIAL FREE protocol there is. Freenet really is the future of the internet. |
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March 18th, 2002
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| I was trying to avoid his thread, but oh well, here it goes, us developers (bearshare, limewire, gnucleus, etc...) are working our asses off day and night, building a better network. Gnutella would have died off long ago if it wasn't for the constant competition between the clients you see today. For example, LimeWire implemented Ultrapeers, BearShare and Gnucleus are putting it in now too. BearShare added searching and sharing files by hash and the rest of us rush to implement it also. Multi-Source downloading was the product of Xolox's proof of concept and the rest of the gnutella clients put it in shortly after that. And many more features and additions to gnutella have been made over the years, as developers come and go, many have been transparent to you guys. Instead of being paranoid about whats going on, you can just ask simple questions on a forum like this if there' something you don't understand. All the developers are aware that the most important part of gnutella is the user, and the future evolution and success of gnutella will onlly be determined by your satisfaction with what we create. |
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March 24th, 2002
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March 24th, 2002
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| *** Uhhh, LW still does most of their development and oh yeah, they have a pro version for sale and spyware (non-optional) and they clump. So quite *** about BS. Its a great program and I hope Vinnie can make a living because he deserves to. Gnucleus is open source but it lags behind in development and swabby does most of the work himself. ***!!! Last edited by Morgwen : March 31st, 2002 at 12:51 PM. |
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April 1st, 2002
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For example my point is that Bearshare is abusing Gnutella (have a look on the openp2p thread for details). I wonder a little bit that Vinnie is really a helpfull person for you, how many papers and workedout suggestion have you seen from him? Okay, I can understand that you don't want to kick Limewire, which does GDF development. Without Bearshare I don't see a negative change for Gnutella or development. My thesis is: if there would be a more open, better documented and friendly place for development... more developers and network specialist would like to help. I have met many Gnutella intersted persons which did not want to be part of the GDF (Bearshare was one reason). You don't believe me? Okay, wait some month and with more Bearshare politics you'll hear more users and developers complaining, doing something beside GDF-Gnutella. The most just don't wanna use their free time to post explanations why they don't like Vinnies politics, instead code. Hm, I'm not lucky about seeing Gnutella interests are kinda splittet, but philosophies seems to be very different when I listen to developers. Greets, Moak PS: Xolox introduced multisegmented downloading and hashs (CRC32 that time) 7 months ago now. Last edited by Moak : April 1st, 2002 at 04:09 AM. |
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April 1st, 2002
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| Moak, don´t foget Etzi (qtella) and Max (mutella), I believe there are more developers outside than inside the GDF! Some don´t want to support the $$ clients, some don´t like Vinnie other think LW/BS have to much power and they could not discuss their ideas! Morgwen
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