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Old June 27th, 2014
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Some months ago I somehow made to install the bearshare.

Now I can't get it working so I have few question.

1. The most important is: Is it still working?

2. If yes then what version I shall install to make it work?

3. Before I made it to work perfectly without any port forwarding and I will not do that cuz I know if it's working I still can do it without port forwarding just like I did it before. I can't do it with p forwarding cuz on my pc it's not possible.

4. What do I exactly need beside connect.txt?

I am using windows 7 64 bit. Can I somehow make it working again? What do I have to do?


I need help guys please few months ago like 2 it worked like a charm with no port forwarding or anything like that. I just installed followed few instructions and it was perfectly fine. Now I can't make it working? What version of bear share do I need? What shall I do? Help me out please.
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Depends which version of BearShare you are using. You didn't tell us.
If you are usiing the BearShare 5.1 Beta version which uses Forced-Ultrapeer mode, then it is possible to connect whilst not port forwarding, but you will be a "firewalled" ultrapeer. (Unless you are using a dial-up modem.)
It seems like most of the BearShare 5.1 Beta users 'firewalled' connect as firewalled ultrapeers.

If you are using any other version of BearShare, you should not need to port forward if you are using a version 5.2 or later, or if you only wish to connect as a Leaf without connecting as an ultrapeer.

If you are using a software firewall, then you should add a firewall exception for BearShare. You may need to re-add it if the BearShare version has been changed.

The changing of the Freepeers file trick was intended to mostly apply if using the BearShare 5.1 Beta or if wishing to connect as an ultrapeer. Something else not mentioned there is the m_everUPExpire = .. which can be set to zero, because it always expires if BearShare has not been used in 28 or more days. Setting that to zero seems to trick BearShare into not knowing the expiry date. m_everUPExpire = 0 ;

I'm guessing you are either not an administrator of your computer or you are connecting from a network, either at school or work, thus unable to port forward via gaining access to the router/modem's firmware control interface.

You will know if you are firewalled if using the BearShare 5.1 Beta if you connect, but only connect to 3 or less Leafs, and if the indicator top-right of the window is flashing yellow & says you are firewalled when you hover your cursor overtop. Being TCP firewalled is the worst because BearShare uses older gnutella technology & handles search queries via TCP. I'm talking about handling search queries from other hosts passing through your BearShare which end up being blocked. Being an ultrapeer is like a link in a chain of hosts. An ultrapeer's objective is to help other hosts to connect to the network, and to handle search queries from other leafs & other ultrapeers, some queries sent from distant ultrapeers.

Although BearShare 5.2-5.3 is supposed to have UPnP support for port mapping (not sure how well it works), the downside is the program has an internal behavour that upsets some hosts on the network. If using 5.2 or higher it is highly unlikely you would connect to any GTK-Gnutella hosts unless they were old versions. The console would show a message like: Auto Host x.x.x.x ("gtk-gnutella/1.0.1-1-ge9769 (2014-03-05; GTK2; Linux)") dropped: response code: 550 'Hostile IP address banned
I saw many of these messages when I tested out BS Lite 5.2.5. I connected as an ultrapeer eventually however by copying details from the BS beta's freepeers file. BS 5.2 Pro has the same behavour that upsets GTK hosts. BS 5.1 appears to be fine for many GTK hosts as long as it's not tcp or udp firewalled.
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I use bearshare 5.2.1 but still the first light is always red it means that he hosts are not connected. Do you have any solution for that? I think my fire wall is not blocking the Bearshare since I also use the solution from the "New Trick To Make BearShare Connect To Gnutella!" thread but still it's not good and only connect sometimes unlike before. Before it was all good I had good connection and could download anything I wanted the first light was always green. How will I do that now? What do I need to download aiditionaly except the host.txt document? Also where I can find those hosts list up to date?

Or maybe I should do something else that I am forgeting about beside addint the exception to the fire wall and replacing the host.txt exe? Which is the best bear share version that is working without the port forwarding?

Will that be my solution? Do you have any idea? And thank you so much for your reply I'm sure I'm not only one with this problem

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If the first light far right is red, if you hover your cursor over-top, it will say if you are firewalled or not. Also, if you enable views, enable the Console. Check the first 10-20 lines of what it prints onto screen after you open the program. This might tell you what the problem is.

If you know how to port forward, then you could try that. Perhaps something has changed in your configuration. A port forward should test whether the problem is UPnP or not. UPnP does not work with all routers/modems & I suspect BearShare's version was an early UPnP technology.

The BearShare community that connects as ultrapeers does not seem very large these days. So small that I used to struggle to obtain the full compliment of BearShare ultrapeers whilst using BS Beta. I connected to 13 BearShare ultrapeers half an hour ago.

As far as the "New Trick" suggested by File_Girl, I'm not sure if the force-ultrapeer mode works for the regular release BearShare. Someone commented it doesn't work for BS 5.1 Pro. As for the other details, if BS fails to connect, you should recheck the details in the freepeers file before you restart the program.

I doubt an out of date GWebcache file would be the problem. BS will usually find new ones.

Until you can connect, you might be better to either use the non-Japanese Hostiles or perhaps not use any at all. That might mean you connect to some BOTs, but the idea is to get that initial connection & check that BS is not firewalled.

I've updated the connection installer & connect file. But it's not much of an update.

BTW I tried BS Light 5.2.1 a week ago. It started to connect but then crashed. Then connection problems so I changed details in the freepeers file & port forwarded & it connected as an ultrapeer. GTK peers didn't seem to like connecting to it though.

Edit: Right-click BearShare & choose Run as Administrator. That might help. (Alternative is to set the compatibility privilege level to Run as Administrator in BearShare's properties.)

On my side of things, my VM system crashed late last year or in January. Since then BS on Win 7 & XP struggles to connect due to firewalled. So I used Win 2 k or Win 8 or both instead.
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