It's greyed out until you do a search. Then select any item in the search results that you feel needs to be filtered out. Then the trash button should be accessible. Or did you already try that?

Under LW prefs>Filters>Junk you'll find options for how you want to use it.

I've been using the windows version so I'm not sure about the mac version.

I had set the filter to strict all the way and not to show junk files. While selecting 4 files and marking them as junk in a total list of 8 I suddenly have only 1 file remaining. Sometimes all the results in the search window dissapear. Seems odd to me. Mostly the smaller files I will mark as junk because they're only spam. Some huge files though are too so I mark them as well. Now I go on a completely different search for another file, totally different name and find a ton of files that aren't junk are marked as junk! Why? I set the filter to show the junk files so that I can now see what's marked as junk that I DIDN'T mark as junk to unmark it. Ugh. I've sinse just turned the whole damn thing off as it seems to be more of a hassle. I still say just put a file size filter on. I don't see how you're supposed to train something when you don't know how it works or is designed in the first place. Then when you sort it, the junk files won't sort and there's valid files above and below. Just not worth it.

There have been quite a bit discussion about filtering out file size, and why the filter come out the way it did, I don't understand.
I (and most others) would be so very happy if we could mark a file with ??k file size as junk, and all of those file sizes are filtered out. It seems so simple. Apparently there is more to it then that.

I have to conclude that this filter was also made for filtering out similar file names. That seems risky, since there are good files with the same file name as bad ones.

If you want to go with that, make a third pane which may be expanded with the junk files. Of course, you will then find many good files are being filtered out and you will never use the junk filter again.

That is what will happen, and what I will be doing.

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Well if you train it, It actually works pretty well move the slide bar back to around 30% to 40% mark the files you know to be good as not junk. It will then start distinguishing between name and size. I myself have never liked filters of any kind but if you take the time this one works better than any I have used before.

If you don't want to take the time to try and figure it out then don't use it. Just keep crying about the filter and maybe they will change it. But I hope not.

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Why do I still see junk files in my search results (items flagged with the trashcan icon) if I select 'Do not display junk' in the Filter Options? Am I missing something?

No your not missing anything. If you move the slider to strict, you won't see much except those files it "Thinks" might be trash, allowing you the option to mark them as not junk.

I have found you don't want to hide them because so many files that aren't junk will be hidden as well.

Crying? Really dumb thing to say.
As for working well, no it doesn't. It works to an extent, but as pointed out, many files that aren't junk get marked junk and you have to mark them as not junk, and the learning never ends. It really has to learn with every new filename.

It is a good attempt with and a good idea, but it doesn't really practically work.

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Working fine for me it took about 2 days to do most of the training. It still occasionally gets one I have to mark as not junk but the application works quite well for me.

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Grandpa !

I'm trying for days only with the audio 134.4 kb spam, using the don't display junk option, first testing with strict , second with about 40% sensitivity - there is no difference. Anything I search, always get the spam, sooner or later - maybe sometimes I connected to "good' UPs.
After marking as junk and researching, I usually get the spam displayed with another search string variation as normal, the marked string displayed as junk 100%.
Marking again the normal ones as junk and researching, I get again the spams displayed, but already with the junk trash icon and 100% displayed in every line. If I try other strings to search too, they all are displayed as junk 100.
The filter works approximately as follows: in 80 % of the cases it doesn't work, every results are displayed, in 15 % it works partly and in 5% fully. I didn't get false junk results.
Maybe You are trying other cases, but I get only this spam.
There is one good outcome: the spams are better visible because of the trash icon and the 100% junk displayed, not only the 134.4 kb size.
I think the developer(s) should work on the filter yet.

It only took me 2 searches to filter out the typical auto-spam such as mp3 spam & the other type of M_Y_S_E_A_R_C_H type of spam with the ipod adverts. The virii are harder to filter out ... needs a lot of persistence.

You need some references to work with. Here's some: 1. autogenerated spam results, & also
2. autogenerated mp3 spam results

3. WARNING: Viruses on network you should be aware of! (click on link)

* ie: the spam filter will work with both the file size & the filename. As previously said, you need to train it bit by bit. Some spam is easier to filter out than others!

I've read all of your references, what is wiritten about this 134.4 kb mp3 spam. I must tell that I never downloaded such a file, I have no virus, spyware, adware. This is verified online and regularly with McAfee virusscan, Zonealarm firewall, Spybot search, Spyware Blaster, Ad-Aware 1.5 Personal.
So remain the training of junk filter - I think I've written already how I've done it. Again: I search for Blabla1 blabla2 string, and mark as junk all spam result that is not displayed as junk already, and I repeat this...But this is a never ending cycle: I always get spam displayed - as junk already, and not omitted from the results.
If you can, please tell me concretly, how can I really filter, what would you do in this case.

Thanks your help.

Perhaps you should set the spam filter for high detection in option settings. Perhaps ensure you have it set to not show spam results.

I cannot explain "why" some people find the junk filter easier to use compared to others. I suspect it has something to do with overall experience with using LW. Just a guess. Experienced users tend to know exactly what to filter out without burning out their thinking cells.

Yes, I set the options to "Don't Display Junk" and "Strict", but I tried with the sensitivity set about 40 % too.

I only ask the experienced and helpful people here - I only use LW pro about one and half year - to help how to use the junk filter (in an effective way).

That's a result after training with "Don't Display JunK" and Strict option. As can be seen, there are cases, where there is
no filtering in effect, other searches are partially filtered.
I've tried to mark the junk lines as not junk then junk again - LW removed the lines immediately, but after researching I got again the previous result, maybe with some variaton.
When there is valid result for a meaningful string, the result is the same, but I get valid result lines too.

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The problem with the junk filter isn't a problem with the junk filter, it's a problem with the viruses. The viruses automatically rename themselves to whatever you search for.
For example a "south park christmas" search will turn up a virus called "south park christmas", and if you mark that as junk then do a search for basically anything else, like "family guy buttsex" a file by that name will turn up and may or may not be marked as junk also, depending on whether the virus has modified a byte randomly or not, causing it to be the exact same file with the same function but having one more 0 or 1 and one less 0 or 1.
Perhaps someone can explain this more thoroughly as I'm tired...