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Under advanced tools in WireShare, I am wondering if there is anyway to tell if a host actually has music files? I have had very good luck when at least one of my hosts I have connected is using the LimeWire Turbo 7.6 version. Not much luck at all receiving music files if they are GTK/Gnutella and moderate luck with most WireShare 5.6.6 users.
Also the hosts that I have seen in the past that have helped me and do not pop back in after getting disconnected, Is there a way to invite them back in and stay there? Many northern europe addresses I have used in the past I would like to get back.
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Also the hosts that I have seen in the past that have helped me and do not pop back in after getting disconnected, Is there a way to invite them back in and stay there?
Not that I'm aware of. Although sharing of similar files can traditionally help in re-finding them in one way or another. Connections are their own thing with its own logic! Hosts may drop-off either because they have dropped off the network or due to other reasons. That might be due to one of them not responding to pings, or because they are connected as a leaf and have dropped connections (usually down to two UP's or one for some programs such as Gnucleus) due to no searches occurring within a period of time. I guess there's also the small chance the host has manually removed connected UPs. Some ultrapeers (UPs) may have been connected to your program within a casual slot and not a full-time slot. Keep in mind the Lime code programs have 27 full-time UP slots and 5 casual slots. The modern programs often use a reconnect process where the peer might reconnect after a period of time.

None of the Lime-code based programs list hosts shared files in the host connection window. For the programs that do, if there is no total shares listing it's most likely because the host is firewalled. Such firewalled hosts would be nigh impossible to browse; AFAIK it is not possible to browse firewalled hosts.

WireShare Host Connections-hosts-showing-shares.png Example of hosts connections - shares or not.

As you probably know, with LW4 and some of the LW clones you could do direct connect searches. WireShare does not possess this function/tool. It's one of those things I missed after LW 5 was released. It's a tool I used frequently and kept a list of hosts I wished to reconnect to. Often because they were outside the standard search horizon.

One of the issues with Direct Connect searches and retaining addresses for any length of time these days is that unlike last decade where majority of people used static addresses, these days a very high percentage of people use some form of dynamic addressing where their address might change anywhere between one or more times a day up to once every few years or at random intervals.

The only option I can think of is the manual connection option in the advanced tools window. If you can obtain their ip address then try this. However that might only work if the host is connected as a UP and has free slots (and your program does too.) Also, if the host was a UP and re-connected it might take the host an hour or longer before becoming a UP again. This is standard for most programs unless average up-time (average session time) is super-high.
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Thanks LOTR That explains a lot then.
I am wondering if the pinging process works ALL the time though? Because some sessions go hours with hosts never dropping, finding later they had nothing.

Yes I miss LimeWire's direct connections. They were pretty dependable and saved a lot of time file searching. I wonder if any of those hosts are still out there ? (I've saved a few addresses)




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The only I can think of is the manual connection option in the advanced tools window. If you can obtain their ip address then try this. However that might only work if the host is connected as a UP and has free slots (and your program does too.) Also, if the host was a UP and re-connected it might take the host an hour or longer before becoming a UP again. This is standard for most programs unless average up-time (average session time) is super-high.

So you are talking about the "ADD A CONNECTION" box?
"PORT" and "USE TLS" then? I have never had it work without it completely be an all numbered address, like 33.33.978.8655 etc. If you use any alphabet it will just flash blank.
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"PORT" and "USE TLS" then? I have never had it work without it completely be an all numbered address, like 33.33.978.8655 etc. If you use any alphabet it will just flash blank.
None of the lime code based programs are coded for ipv6. So alpha characters are non applicable. I know near to nothing about ipv6 and don't even know or remember if it uses alpha characters.

Oh I think I've just realised what you are referring to. You need to disable the resolving of ip addresses. Otherwise you are instead trying to connect via hostname and not a specific ip address. Hostname addresses are not valid for manual connections. LW4 & I suspect also the LW clones do not have that option to disable the resolving of ip addresses.

I have had success with the adding of ip addresses. Not frequently but it does work. If the host is online and is an ultrapeer and has free peer & leaf slots then it is connectable. But keep in mind the host (if it is an ultrapeer) might not have any available connection slots at that particular moment in time. The manual adding of hosts has worked for me using lime code programs including WireShare, as well as Phex and BearShare, and if my memory is correct also Gnucleus.

If you use TLS then it becomes a more restrictive connection attempt. I personally don't bother using it. I know I've tested it out but probably gave up on it because the TLS approach appeared to be a hindrance rather than of assistance. In theory the opposite should be true if trying to connect to GTK-G, LimeWire, FrostWire, WireShare, Cabos or Acqlite.
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