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GamerCyGirl June 30th, 2007 07:51 PM

*sigh* My PC (Freezes up)
 
Sorry but my PC's f up:(:mad2: I did a full system scan(using Norton) and it said nothings there, it freezes for after 2 min or random I give up I dunno what (after this it froze good thing I have firefox) ok so can y'all tell me everything about what makes a PC freeze. oh yeah I used V-cleaner on Safe-Mode before but after it ends it don't show anything if it worked or not.
I'd be grateful for an answer.

Funeral_ForMyValentine.x July 11th, 2007 04:07 AM

I am having the same problem & Ive v_i_r_u_s scanned alot & found nothing.
I know one thing thats making my PC freeze, and its not enough disk space (which is my main hassle with computing.. Oh come on.. who gets a computer with a TOTAL amount of 7GB disk space.. My eyepod holds more than that!!.)
But do you have the latest version of Java?
How much RAM do you have?
Do you have a low amount of disk space? (this depends on what you consider low and what your total space is.)

Also heres another thing to consider.. Does your PC freeze up mostly when you try to launch a certain program? (Mine does when I launch LW)

Derek S. July 12th, 2007 02:26 PM

You could have a number of problems causing your freezing. Too many programs running, or not responding, or someone could even possibly be pinging you. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ukbobboy01 July 13th, 2007 06:09 AM

Hi GamerCyGirl

Seems like you are PC troubles are going to be long term friends:w00t:

First the bad news, it is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to tell you what is wrong with your PC without a thorough examination. You see, whatever has got onto your PC is buried so deep that conventional software, like Norton AntiVirus, etc., can't find it.

Some good news, all is not lost, get your parents to take your PC back to the place they bought it to get it repaired, which will require a full reformat and replacement of all the drivers and software. So, your PC will be turned back to day one.

Some even better news, if you still have your start-up disk that came with your PC you, or your Dad, could get the PC back to "day one" yourself. The disk will reformat your hard disk and put everything back the way it was when you first got the machine.

As with any "day one" PC you will have to put all the other software you have bought back on yourself (and of course you will lose all your data in the reformatting process).

Anyway, good luck.



UK Bob

novox1988 July 21st, 2007 01:58 PM

Virus
 
Hey it could because of a virus called Virtumonde/Vundo. Anti Virus Software doesnt pick this up but this tool will. Just Download and run the program. I found 34 instances of it on my computer.

www.atribune.org - VundoFix.exe

;)

GamerCyGirl July 22nd, 2007 02:15 PM

Aww Thanks all u bunnies!!!! ^0^ Kupo!!!
I'll check that up Novodude, but right now my parents can't afford fixing it but thanks so much everyone!!!

GamerCyGirl July 22nd, 2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funeral_ForMyValentine.x (Post 278334)
I am having the same problem & Ive v_i_r_u_s scanned alot & found nothing.
I know one thing thats making my PC freeze, and its not enough disk space (which is my main hassle with computing.. Oh come on.. who gets a computer with a TOTAL amount of 7GB disk space.. My eyepod holds more than that!!.)
But do you have the latest version of Java?
How much RAM do you have?
Do you have a low amount of disk space? (this depends on what you consider low and what your total space is.)

Also heres another thing to consider.. Does your PC freeze up mostly when you try to launch a certain program? (Mine does when I launch LW)

It has this 2.53GHz, 192MB of RAM this is on system then when I go to Local Disk I move the arrow over it it says: Free Space 20.7GB Total Space 37.2GB
Is that good memory or not?

Peerless July 22nd, 2007 02:57 PM

you haven't given any type of information as to what your computer is...

like manufacturer, CPU, brand of Hard Disk (HDD), etc...

at the very least (assuming you are running some flavor of windows) run chkdsk to see if there are any errors on your HDD, then defragment it afterwards...

to run chkdsk:
start>run then type in: chkdsk C: /f

you will find that it can't do it, but will ask if you want to run it the next time you boot up your machine...type Y (for yes) then hit enter...the next time you restart your HDD will be checked for errors...

to defragment:

start>control panel>administrative tools>computer management

hit the defragment button and let it run...


then see if this makes your stuff run better...

Peerless July 22nd, 2007 03:01 PM

what OS are you using?

192MB of ram is way low for any OS IMHO...I have 2GB....

since you state your cpu is running at 2.53GHz, I'm going to guess its a P4B running at 533 MHz and you are running windows XP....as noted your RAM is way too low for any good...you need at least 512MB and more like 1024MB to really perform....if my assumption of your cpu is correct, then you need RAM that is PC2700...and of course you need to verify that it is compatible with your system before you buy it....

Peerless July 22nd, 2007 03:28 PM

furthermore...

I suggest you download and install SpyBot Search & Destroy, and AdawareSE (both freeware)...update them...then run them...something that your AV scanner missed might be found...

google the above names for download links...I suggest straight from the manufacturer!....when updating Spybot use the Safer Networking servers....

GamerCyGirl July 22nd, 2007 04:28 PM

Whoa u sure know bout that! Thank u! oh yeah its customized.

Peerless July 22nd, 2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GamerCyGirl (Post 279987)
Whoa u sure know bout that! Thank u! oh yeah its customized.

ermmm...well I have to say whoever built it needs a talking to....192MB of ram is pathetically low for a custom machine...I'm betting the motherboard is old enough that it doesn't support dual channel mode, but that's not a great big issue....the physical amount of ram is....as noted, you need at least 512 and more like 2 sticks of it for a total of 1GB....you will most likely need to just throw away the stuff you have now as it will be basically useless....it will be far easier to find 2 matching sticks of PC2700 and use those...but again, make sure the brand you choose will work with your board....

Peerless July 22nd, 2007 07:46 PM

***edit..well because of the fracking forum scripts the links get edited so they are useless....anywho search around for some PC2700 (DDR333) RAM...a set of 2 matched sticks of 512 cost around 60 bucks...***

the one advantage to using 'dated' technology is that many times its pretty cheap to 'upgrade'...

what you need to verify is the CAS latency your motherboard wants to see....2.5 is pretty common and I bet the stuff I link to above will work just fine and dandy....

novox1988 July 23rd, 2007 06:53 AM

Atribune has free tools to check your computer.

198 MB of RAM indicates that you have a 128 MB stick and a 64 MB stick. Which is really dodgy. If you are using memory that low it also indicates an old type of RAM. you really should think about a total system overhaul. :yikes:

Bye

GamerCyGirl July 23rd, 2007 02:50 PM

*sigh* Yup guys Its so butt! hmm I was thinking of just getting a new one just a PCU at Walmart are there any cheap ones but with the memory it should have?
Oh yeah I live in NJ so I can't do long travelings no car...
Arigato Kupo!

Peerless July 23rd, 2007 03:53 PM

if you do indeed have a P4B (that is the spec for 533MHz) and upgrade to 1GB of ram (2 sticks of 512) you should be fine...I would think that any HellMart computer would be cr@p...IMHO the ~50 bucks for a gig of ram for your current machine is a very cheap investment and should get you rocking...

if your nick is an indication that you are a big gamer then perhaps a new machine might be warranted, but a machine to current specs is going to cost a pretty penny to truly be a gaming machine....

look here: Newegg.com - Buy Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! and search for memory>desktop>pc2700

kingston and corsair are both good brands..

if you post the full specs of your machine I'll take the time to figure out if:

1: its worth upgrading the memory
2: if the memory brands I give above will work (for this I'll need the exact name of your motherboard)....

download an app called Everest here: |MG| Free Download - EVEREST Free Edition 2.20

install it..run it and note all the particulars about your system and list them here (as noted, I need the MoBo name)...this is also a good proggy to keep track of temps and such, and can even be used to benchmark certain aspects of your machine...I think that with a little OCing your current machine will keep you happy for at least another year...

novox1988 July 24th, 2007 05:03 AM

Dunno about walmart never been to one ever. Thought it was a supermarket.
My gaming machine cost $1600 and I had to build it myself so if you want a gaming machine be prepared to pay this much if not more.

Final Fantasy is Awesome Kupo....:PEACE:

GamerCyGirl August 20th, 2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by novox1988 (Post 280218)
Dunno about walmart never been to one ever. Thought it was a supermarket.
My gaming machine cost $1600 and I had to build it myself so if you want a gaming machine be prepared to pay this much if not more.

Final Fantasy is Awesome Kupo....:PEACE:

Kupopo!! yes it is!!

Ohyeah MOm got a whole new PC its HP and not customized but mines is been put away cuz shes thinking on taking to get fix I dunno whens that but its ai'ght cuz Im on it her PC now she let me use it but I still want to get me a laptop. Oh yeah the name brand of my bust up COmp is LG

Peerless August 20th, 2007 04:55 PM

LG eh...well, they are good enough makers of electronics, though I have no idea about computers...

your machine is indeed centered around the P4 2.53GHz 533 FSB Northwood core cpu...that's an excellent version of the P4 using .13 micron technology which was the best of the socket 478's IMHO...they run cooler and can usually be overclocked quite well...though since its not a custom machine I doubt that is an available option in the BIOS of the motherboard....if it is, then I would think that getting a further upgrade of PC3200 ram (DDR400) and pushing the FSB up a bit would make that machine sing and still be well within its ability to cope...but it seems like this whole schmeel is beyond your desires...but I have to say that that HP machine your using is probably crammed full of malware...HP takes payments from companies to load that cr@p on their machines (that's how they sell them so cheaply)..bleh..

Remoc August 20th, 2007 05:23 PM

Peerless, Can you give me your opinion on this Barebones rig and if there is a better way to go other than Barebones. Thanks, Remoc.

Intel DP35DPM Socket 775 Barebone Kit Intel Q6600 2.40GHz OEM 200GB HDD OEM 1GB DDR2 PC5400 ATX Mid-Tower Case with a 500 Watt Power Supply at TigerDirect.com.

There will be no gameing. Just some Microsoft Office Stuff

Peerless August 20th, 2007 05:48 PM

what are your exact plans for this machine, and what would your budget be?

I'm not at all impressed by the PSU with that case...that is always a weak point in many builds....doling out the funds for a quality PSU is always worth the money!...

lets skip the queries on my part and I'll simply state that I think ASUS boards are top of the line, though I feel that intel is a great way to go because of various other reasons....

note of course the barebones kit listed does not have a cpu cooler nor has a video or sound card included (though the board is sound enabled, but I try to avoid such things)

Maxtor drives are currently not in the greatest of regard...I've beaten the he!l out of my WD drives and they are all still working (this goes back 6 years...I've still got my original 80GB WD drive)

also the included 1GB of ram is lamer as it doesn't even enable the use of the dual channel memory function of that board (i.e. 2GB should have been offered to really take advantage of modern day use of dual channel)...I notice one review said he added in 2GB more of ram..pffffttt...that also restricts the dual channel function as full pairs of sticks of matching properties need be used to really sing....

in essence, the deal seems fair, but if you are really looking for a custom machine you would probably be better off creating your own from a separate list of parts...

the case also lacks in the ability to cram it chock full of fans if one desires....I find Antec cases to be quite nice for the price....also, their PSUs are highly reliable and fairly rated as far as their Wattage capabilities...

Remoc August 20th, 2007 06:11 PM

Hey Thanks for checking that out for me. I had a feeling about it and thats why I haven't made a move yet.
As far as cost goes I would really like to have a great system for less than a Grand. Have a 15 yr. old doing his homework, and other things that these kids do, and me, LW, internet, just basic stuff. Really don't need a Super Computer but would like to have something thats not outdated a few months after I buy it.
Any suggestions would be COOL.
Thanks

I am using one of those "Loaded With BS HP's"

Time to make a change

Peerless August 20th, 2007 06:27 PM

I assume you want a whole new complete set up with drive(s), sound, video card, DVD burner and OS?

WiFi?

I'll also assume you have no interest in RAID...

Remoc August 20th, 2007 06:48 PM

Yea, all of the above except the dvd burner and I think RAID is a little overkill for us right now.
No WiFi
Would take some advice on the Operating Systems. Don't really want to go the Vista route until they get the bugs worked out. Have XP now.
My brother is thinking about Linux, your opinion?? XP has been OK for me.
Thanks

Peerless August 20th, 2007 07:15 PM

lets face it...you're a gnutella network user, and being real that means to use the stuff you have downloaded you pretty much need a windoze machine...run from Vista...get an OEM version of XP pro, and while 64bit would be grand a heck of a lot of programs need 32bit to work properly AFAIK...the only disadvantage of OEM is that it is locked to a certain BIOS code on your MoBO upon first registration so you can't transfer the OS to a new machine...UNLESS that machine has the same MoBo or close to it...as an example, this machine I'm using right now (MoBo, CPU, and OS HDD's) originally resided in another physical MoBo...and the MoBo's are exactly the same...the old one was an ASUS P4C800e-deluxe but I found that it had a faulty fourth DIMM slot when I finally added in another 2X512 set of matched sticks to use a full 2GB of memory...so I had to RMA it...if you have paid attention THIS machine is my internet machine so obviously I would just up and DIE if I didn't have internet access...so I took the MoBo from one of my DAW's and put all of the other parts (cpu, ram, video, HDDs, etc) and put them in an ASUS P4C800 deluxe (notice the subtle difference, the-e deluxe has an ICH5R (RAID) southbridge, and other is just an ICH5 (non RAID)...I'll skip the whole long story of the subtle differences, but The_Point is that the machine started right up (woops...except for the MoBo detecting the different (NEW in the MoBo's eye) and having to forceably enter the BIOS and changing some settings..oh yeah, then I had to fix a missing NTDLR file...it was after this was resolved that the machine started right up) and didn't even hiccup over the change in the MoBo's...they are exactly the same (hence no change as far as XP OEM was concerned) so window's doesn't even realize that this is the case...in fact you could probably make a set of machines using the same MoBo's and install just one OS of them, use the same serial...and Micro$oft update probably wouldn't hiccup either!...

OEM saves you quite a few bucks compared to the 'retail' version...I ended up using XP MCE on this machine just because it was $10 cheaper than just XP Pro...Pro has a few other networking capabilities than MCE does but this can be 'hacked' so no problemo...you can even spend a few more bucks and get the IR receiver and remote and go the full MCE package...that costs about $40 bucks more...anywho I do heartily advise you BUY an OS and be confident that the only hair up your a§§ will be those created/allowed by M$...

Peerless August 20th, 2007 08:50 PM

Peerless' "dream machine" for the above situation (budget)(sans DVD burner???) would be:
MoBo:

Stability: Intel BLKD975XBX2KR 975X P4/P4EE/Pentium D/Pentium XE 1066 at ZipZoomfly
Performance: ASUS P35 P5K Deluxe Wifi Motherboard Retail at ZipZoomfly

CPU:Intel Core 2 Q6600 Quad Core Processor 2.4GHz 1066 MHz LGA775 8MB cache Retail at ZipZoomfly CPU Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13GHz FSB 1066MHz 4M LGA775 Retail at ZipZoomfly[/url]
Ram:OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Platinum SLI-Ready Edition OCZ2N10662GK Memory Retail at ZipZoomfly
Case:Enermax ECA3052-B Chakra Mid Tower Case (Black) at ZipZoomfly
PSU:Antec TruePower TRIO 650 650W Power Supply at ZipZoomfly
HDD's: 2 of Western Digital WD1600YS 160GB 3.0 Gb/s 16 MB Cache 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive at ZipZoomfly
Video:ASUS GeForce 8500 GT PCIE 512MB DDR2 Extreme Silent EN8500GT SILENT/HTD/512M Video Card Retail at ZipZoomfly
Sound: Onboard...
OS:Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 w/SP2B - OEM
remote:Microsoft A90-00007 Remote Control and Receiver for Media Center PC wi at ZipZoomfly

that's around a grand right there....

still need a monitor, burner, keyboard & mouse, and maybe a couple of extra fans (preferrably one blowing over all 3 HDDs)....

the above MoBo/CPU/RAM combo could be very nicely OC'd by an easy 10% (pushing the cpu to ~2.65GHz)...the cpu is retail so a stock cooler should be included.....

I guess I failed to meet your budget, but your desire to not have something be past technology in 6 months requirs using some of the most cutting edge technology which costs a few bucks more!

I guess a comparable analysis between bare bone would be that my dream machine cost $915-$955 according to the chosen MoBo..for OC'ing I'd choose ASUS...

Remoc August 21st, 2007 03:38 AM

Peerless, WOW Thanks for your time and effort. The above rig is exactly along the lines I'm thinking. I really like the ASUS MoBo.

It may be a few months before I can do anything, but I will let you know and probably ask for more advice.

I just recently crashed my 06 Dodge Charger, so I'm a little set back by this STUPID ACT of carelessness, but I guess thats why they are called accidents. I really appreciate your advice.
Thanks, Remoc

GamerCyGirl August 23rd, 2007 11:49 PM

Whoah I din't know dat! *sigh* and IF I tell that 2 my MOM sh'e gonna be but how its new! and shes gonna its impossible! >-< Let's just say that she thinks she knows a lot of PCs when she doesn't it makes me mad. Like for example my pc is infected(well it is) I told that Norton Anti-virus isn't enough that it needs the whole thing she gonna be like "How can that be its from a CD" I'm like that doesn't have to anything with being a CD! I need the secirity thingy cuz that alone won't get the deep malwares and such but she won't listen so see why I told ya that.
Anyway I'm thinking of getting a laptop so I'll forget what she said she thinks she's know-it-all in that stuff!! grr


BUt thanksss ALLL!!!

ukbobboy01 August 24th, 2007 08:52 AM

GamerCyGirl

You are so funny:dance:, or is it that New Jersey version of English that you write in, either way you make me laugh:rofl:.


UK Bob

PS. What does "Bunny" mean?

Peerless September 10th, 2007 04:06 PM

I just read a study on the quad cores which indicates that for current software they are slower than duo cores....sooooo....I would take the above dream machine and go to a core-duo and possibly downgrade the MoBo (no, I haven't taken the time to research if this is needed) to save funds....

Remoc September 10th, 2007 04:55 PM

Hey Thanks for the update, but right now everything is on hold, so maybe this isn't such a bad thing, for now. I'll definitely summons you're advice when I can. Thanks

Xcom46 September 14th, 2007 10:52 AM

This

Is My Spec's For My Pc

MicroSoft Windows Xp Sp2 Build (2600)
System Memory 2Gig
2.8 GHz Amd Athlon (tm) Processor
DirectX Version 9.0c
Display Device-NviDia GeForce Fx 5200
Sound Device-Via Audio (Wave)
NetWork -A Belkin Wireless G DesktopCard
Disk Drive One- 40 GB
Disk Drive Two-160
CD-Rom-R-RW-CDRom-DVD 52x32x52x16
CD-Rom-R-RW-CDRom-DVD 52x32x52x16
Hi Speed USB 2.0 Driver

Hows This for a Home Build I Made It My Self

Valor_NET September 17th, 2007 08:00 AM

^ Good way to get hacked there.
Give the Gnutella people your IP and then all your system specs - genius...
You also didn't build that - it sounds EXACTLY like a setup for some of the older HP Pavillion models... Freud.

Anyway - All these guys gave you was air! I'll make it simple.
You can fix your problem(s) rather quickly:

1) Install / Run any anti virus software you already have.
Uninstall each one as it fails to pick anything up.
Lastly, get what I use: Kaspersky Internet Security - It's great. Some of the other links to software can be mal-ware, being FAKE anti-virus programs!

2) Defragment your system - get unused sectors "recycled" for reuse.

3) If any particular program causes your system to slow, unintall and reinstall it - that could be what's messing up your system or "holding" a virus. After reinstall, if you STILL get issues with the same program, try tweaking settings.

4) When using any online resource, make sure you have PING usage blocked somehow, be it with a network router or firewall.

5) If you STILL have issues, it may just be time to get some more memory (and Hard Discs are about $70 or so for a good 120 Gigabytes) or some more RAM installed.

All of this depends on the time and effort or funds you're willing/wanting to use of course.

On a sidenote - it's nice to see somebody else who liked Final Fantasy Tactics.
I used to hack the crud outta that with GameShark! <(^.^)>
Be sure to try FF7 - if you can get hold on it somehow (GameStop/eBay) - it's arguably the BEST ever.
I guess they're remaking it - at least, there's a demo going around for a remake for PS3 & MAYBE Xbox360.

Peerless September 17th, 2007 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valor_NET (Post 288650)
^ Good way to get hacked there.
Give the Gnutella people your IP and then all your system specs - genius...
You also didn't build that - it sounds EXACTLY like a setup for some of the older HP Pavillion models... Freud.

Anyway - All these guys gave you was air! I'll make it simple.
You can fix your problem(s) rather quickly:

1) Install / Run any anti virus software you already have.
Uninstall each one as it fails to pick anything up.
Lastly, get what I use: Kaspersky Internet Security - It's great. Some of the other links to software can be mal-ware, being FAKE anti-virus programs!

2) Defragment your system - get unused sectors "recycled" for reuse.

3) If any particular program causes your system to slow, unintall and reinstall it - that could be what's messing up your system or "holding" a virus. After reinstall, if you STILL get issues with the same program, try tweaking settings.

4) When using any online resource, make sure you have PING usage blocked somehow, be it with a network router or firewall.

5) If you STILL have issues, it may just be time to get some more memory (and Hard Discs are about $70 or so for a good 120 Gigabytes) or some more RAM installed.

All of this depends on the time and effort or funds you're willing/wanting to use of course.

On a sidenote - it's nice to see somebody else who liked Final Fantasy Tactics.
I used to hack the crud outta that with GameShark! <(^.^)>
Be sure to try FF7 - if you can get hold on it somehow (GameStop/eBay) - it's arguably the BEST ever.
I guess they're remaking it - at least, there's a demo going around for a remake for PS3 & MAYBE Xbox360.


has anybody told you what a dillhole you are lately?

if they haven't, then take this as official notice that you are...

I like the way you term HDD space as memory...yeah...what a rocket scientist you are..

Xcom46 September 17th, 2007 02:51 PM

Hmmm What ever

First if any one here would like to try to hack my pc GOOD luck.They would have to break through my four firewalls with a little nasty on the Side.The side of four nasty little virus's that are not picked up buy any anti-virus programs.Lets just say you will pay if you try.

Hehe Try that on for size.

Peerless September 17th, 2007 02:56 PM

ermmm....just what exactly makes either of you think that one of us is going to try and hack our way in?....said subject being brought up is xactly why I am presently p!ssed at valor_net....hell, now that you jump in I'm going to mug him again....

Xcom46 September 17th, 2007 05:10 PM

Naaa I was not talking to you to Valor.

Valor_NET September 27th, 2007 10:44 AM

Lol. I never said anybody was going to hack anybody, simply in a way - that you shouldn't post your system specs. :|

Funeral_ForMyValentine.x September 29th, 2007 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GamerCyGirl (Post 279973)
It has this 2.53GHz, 192MB of RAM this is on system then when I go to Local Disk I move the arrow over it it says: Free Space 20.7GB Total Space 37.2GB
Is that good memory or not?

I am really sorry that I never replied.
It seems pretty good. Well its much better than mine

GamerCyGirl April 21st, 2008 06:04 PM

Hey that's cool, thanks for replying.

GamerCyGirl July 14th, 2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukbobboy01 (Post 284880)
GamerCyGirl

You are so funny:dance:, or is it that New Jersey version of English that you write in, either way you make me laugh:rofl:.


UK Bob

PS. What does "Bunny" mean?

Lol its just that I was in a hurry but I'm not American; I'm Puertorican.
oh my way of saying bunny was for caring, to be sweet I guess.


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