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Old February 17th, 2008
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Default How do i remove the limit of hosts i can download from in Limewire PRO

When i download things, i can download only to 14 hosts, which is not enough to reach maximum speed.. so how can i remove this limitation?
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LW Basic has a limit of 8 hosts per file, LW Pro has 10 per file. As a T3 connection you can obtain up to 14. The limits are there for a good reason. Reasons suggested in this link http://www.gnutellaforums.com/307236-post2.html (click on blue link)

You would need to re-engineer the program to remove the limits. But that would be highly selfish.
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hmm.. re-engineering would just be deleting a code line?
but if you would connect to more people at once wouldn't you:
-take less time to finish your download, so more people can connect to the file again
-remove strain from uploaders(if you would have one host, which uploads to you @30 kbits/s, over lets say.. 30 hosts which all upload at 10 kbits/s, you download faster and put less strain on your hosts.
so why is it selfish to connect to more hosts? Correct me if i'm wrong but I think it is the opposite of selfish.
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Disagree .. as pointed out to you in the above link ... other p2p networks have suffered & even died as a result of people being queued for downloads for hours. People lose interest & look for better alternatives.

Easy quick answer you gave, but not as simple as that. For a start, ultrapeers would suffer due to the extra traffic. As you know ultrapeers (UPs) are needed for people to connect to the network. If UP's are tied up with people's downloading habits then others will struggle to even connect to the network. So whilst a few people are downloading hundreds of files at once, others would spend ages if not hours trying to connect to the network. Pleases a small minority but disadvantages the majority. It's within the gnutella network protocol of understanding between clients to keep the limits. LW pro has an exception of having a couple of extra hosts.

You do need to be careful if adjusting the gnutella code, else some clients may auto ban you due to the different behaviour. LW is set up to prevent mal-behaviour from other clients including LW itself. Generally happens after repeated behaviour. AFAIK
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It has been a while since a new reply is posted on this post, but i need to say: with the new version of limewire, the amount of hosts a limewire pro(=paid) has been lowered to 10. this is too low to reach high speeds above 400kb/s, so i would like to know how I can read the limewire code properly and adjust the max number hosts back to 14.
(why they made limewire worse is another question but I won't stray away.)
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I am not sure if you still get 14 hosts or not running as an ultrapeer. I choose not to be an ultrapeer anyway. Remember the extra hosts beyond 10 was only if you were running as an ultrapeer. They have removed the ability to cheat to become an ultrapeer by choosing the T3 setting. Instead now you only become an ultrapeer if (a) the network (& around your area) needs more, (b) if you have ultrapeer enabled, (c) your LW is behaving well enough & has more than enough bandwidth available to become one. There's probably other requirements before you become an ultrapeer. Stief would know more about this.

The speeds below are two examples using LW 4.16 which also had the change in speed settings within LW. These snapshots where taken July 31st, Aug. 20th & Sept. 12th (the 15 downloads). I have had over 300 KB/s I know but that was earlier in year (same version LW) but not sure if I took a snapshot or not.

I'm sure my bandwidth ability is less than yours but still able to get good speeds 'if' I connect to the right hosts.



Edit: A second recent example: (I normally have reasonable upload speeds, I hope that was only coincidence & not affected by downloads my uploads were so low. Snapshots taken over 45 second period using a computer video recorder.)



Funny thing is, my line was tested at 4-5 MBps almost 2 years ago. I guess improvements since then have lifted the abilities. I was told my overall speed plan is around 24 MBps though I would be unlikely to ever get up that high. I doubt this particular router would cope with much faster than the speeds shown here either. It's fast enough for me, no need to buy a new router 'just' to get faster than this for now at least.
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if the upload connection is fast enough, Pro 4.18.8 (leaf or UP) can download from 14 hosts.

I just checked, and grabbed the following screenie while running as a leaf on a 5/1 mbps cable connection.
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