We have a pedophile distributing filth on the P2P network. Don't know how much else is out there, but this is one of the files : do not, ever again, post such keywords in this forum

I don't know what if anything can be done about this pervert but I aseem to remember a thread about catching another distributer. Porn is one thing, this is just illegal, sick filth!!!!!

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Agreed! I've come across files with Pedo named with them also. I wondered if it was someone's name like pedro. lol duh! That was till I checked one out to be sure. Whoops! It seems to be a semi-attempt at masking using an abbreviated term. I'm guessing all those after pedophilia search the term pedo. I guess you could report it here http://www.ifccfbi.gov as even if you're not from USA, AFAIK there's international cooperation re: pedophilia.

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Well, I've tried that so I'll wait and see. If anything happens I'll keep this forum posted.

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in the Location column it has the ip address of the download source. cant they be traced through that. often sites say your ip address is logged in case of illegal activity. why log it if it cant be traced?

one of the main IP addresses seem sto be 20*.130.*.*. Also a searcg for do not, ever again, post such keywords in this forum finds about 30+ images!!! Sick, sick, sick. Where's my GUN!!!!!!

Sorry but we need to remain consistent on the forum. No emails addys, no ip addresses, etc. are allowed to be posted.

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"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
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Towards the end of the document you kindly provided the link for is the quote "wouldn't come across them unless actively looking" -This is not completely true. If you do a what's new search and inadvertently highlight the wrong file to download by definition that action is unintentional. Thus the author of the document seems to me to be protecting the software and balming the users. Rather like the gun argument. Guns don'[t kill people, people do. But why make and distribute certain kinds of guns in the first place. Just so they can be used to shoot tin cans, I think NOT!!!!!If the authors of the software were truley worried about it's miss use, I'm sure they could tighten up on what I can be used for. For example, hard coded licence requirements, rather than an optional setting allowing you to disregard the requirment.

Anyway, this is getting off topic. Legal or otherwise, I think there is one hell of a difference between the redistribution of a Movie and the redistribution of child abuse in any form.


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report such offenders here:

http://www.cphotline.org/

I don't think LeeWare was defending pedophiles. And what exactly is LimeWire, FrostWire, Shareaza, Phex, Morpheus & all the other multitudes of gnutella programs supposed to do? It's like demanding that all computers, monitors, internet, cameras, dvd players & disks, video capture devices & storage mediums, video & image processing software, etc. etc. should have a special license or/& filter to stop them being used for pedophiliia. And how is pedophilia supposed to be detected exactly. lol There's some places in the world where what we consider to be underage ... is actually acceptable for marriage. I don't condone/agree with it. But that's life.

Thanks for the link Peerless.

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Religion keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -- Napoleon Bonaparte
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -- Albert Einstein
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
"The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson

Key word searched for one. Also description filters " do not, ever again, post such keywords in this forum" is a popular one.

AOL uses a very sophisticed Spam filter that is very impressiv. The technology could be adapted I'm sure. I have one or two years experience in the IT Business my self and know what can be done.

I disagree with the comparasion between hardware and software. If we can virus and spam filter, I'm sure we can Pedo Filter to an extent. However far more importantly is the ability to track back to the originators IP Address and take action. If the IP address is displayed then it can be traced.

Also the file I'm talking about contaning a 4 year old. I don't think that is leagl in any country.

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LW already has keyword filters. Add them yourself. Add Pedo, etc. & then you won't have to worry about it anymore. How to use the Keyword Filter It's very handy & effective & can be used to get rid of most porn also.

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When facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein
Religion keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -- Napoleon Bonaparte
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -- Albert Einstein
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
"The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson

I know how to add the filters. I'm talking about hardcoded filters (ie built into the software). Then again I can see problems with that. I think more importantly is the traceability.. If a 15 year old girl can be prosecuted for sharing music via a P2P network I am dam sure Pedophiles can be caught. It would be useful if there was an alert mechanism built in that could send a report to the appropriate authority. What do you think?

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Limewire is open source. You're free to add these types of things to your own version. But start bringing in what you're suggesting, then it's auto-report to RIAA for music copyright infringement, MPIA for movie copyright, etc. You'd destroy the merits of a very good program. Already LW is under pressure & brought in the licensing warning option. Enough is enough. This is not a police state where I live & am not into dictatoral environments. Perhaps you are. What if someone downlds a setchy file by mistake but it sits in their share for days or weeks because they hadn't got around to checking it. That person could find themselves convicted as a Pedophile despite their total opposition to Pedophilia. Such an option will bring in more such options & before you know it ... It'd be like an auto booking system on your car. You momentarily pass the speed limit by 3 km/h or 3 M/h whilst passing a car or coming over a large hill & you get an automatic ticket (even if you were several ticks below the speed limit as you were going up the hill). lol What's the world coming to.

Oh don't forget you can block hosts. So if you find such a person (if they have multiple such files & are obviously collecting & sharing that type of topic), then you can report & block them.

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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
640 K [of computer memory] ought be enough for anybody. -- Bill Gates (1981)
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. -- Albert Einstein
When facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein
Religion keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -- Napoleon Bonaparte
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -- Albert Einstein
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
"The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson

OK. Love a good discussion. Funs over.

However, how about this for a scenario. I've joined the group, posted a few messages, asked a few questions and have now decided that the P2P network is the perfect place to distribute Kiddie porn. Acording to you guys I'd be completely untouchable. Cool.
Fortunatley I don't do that kind of thing. I don't live in a police state and woudn't report somone for selling pirate DVD's or littering (both crimes) I would however, report someone for making a Kiddie porn movie. I think a line needs to be drawn somewere that's all.


Over and Out.


BTW, the net in monitered constantly. I've worked for the security services and know that "Big Brother" watches us all.

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1. Not at all. 2. I'm aware. Some countries have more respect for privacy than others. That includes ISP's.
BTW I am aware/know of someone who does work for a special unit of policing in multiple areas but one also being the area of this topic. This person is a member of the forum. Unfortunately they've been too busy to be around of late.

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Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
640 K [of computer memory] ought be enough for anybody. -- Bill Gates (1981)
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. -- Albert Einstein
When facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein
Religion keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -- Napoleon Bonaparte
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -- Albert Einstein
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
"The music business is a cruel and shallow trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson