new
 

morpheus 4.02 released

<http://www.morpheus.com>



only visible change is the media player has been rearranged

also it has a newer version of gnucdna

i don't kno if there is an official change log

I see that they have made no improvements to the numerous outright lies that are liberally splattered all over the home page...

It is beyond the comprehension of numerous folks here to even begin to understand why you, swimkid, persist in touting this garbage that is so very harmful to the Gnutella Network...
It's bad enough that there is even a forum here for this monstrosity...
Why make any noise about it ?

wow
 

u need to chill out

and...
 

i never said morpheus was THE BEST EVER or anything i just thought i'd post the new version!

and how is morpheus harmfull to gnutella?

does that mean gnucleus is too?

or r u just saying that just because u don't like streamcast

plus
 

plus if this is the morpheus forum y do u have such a problem with one littel post about a new version?

that is beyond my comprehension

Re: and...
 

Never said you did !Behaviour.
Bad behaviour.Are you thus declaring the two to be the same ? :eek:

Amazing question... :rolleyes:



btw, Many thanks for your suggestion re: my cryonic status, but my chill level seems to be sufficient at the moment.

It is worth noting again what an outrageous and incredibly stupid group of lies are published on their home page...

We've been through this one before...
Implying some form of special

Legal

status to a p2p client is a gross deception.
NO legitimate client does such crap.

And now, back to my frosty cool raspberry daiquiri ! :p

Sure you are right Swimkid, you can post the new version of morpheus here because it is their forum. However, it is PURE crap, and it slows down the Gnet (old written core of 2 years 1/2 without updating, a 99% leech it is a 100% profitor -read parasitic- in the new LW topology network and there are SO many reasons to not love it as it abuses some gwebcaches too). All should run away from that program and that why we (Ursula, I and others) prefer there isn't even news about it here. May it dies in a long agony from our collective memory. Amen;)

Ursula: gnucleus as the same parasitic behavior as morpheus as morph uses gnucdna, however we notice it less because it is a lot less popular. I should also say that it is the gnutella core of gnucdna that sucks, the gnutella 2 implementation is quite good, but I sure don't support that network:rolleyes:

..
 

alrighty then ,


i'm curious, what is this bad behavior u talked about?

The bad behaviour is a lot technical, but as I said see them as leeches (the animal) and other clients as fishes.
The core is 2years and a half old (gnutella has evolve a lot in the past year with dynamic querying and high outdegree -things morph totally lack, and the developper of GnucDNA doesn't want to work on it-) , their ultrapeers are elected even when on 56k (meaning the GNet traffic isn't routed, thus no morpheus UP results...) etc etc at infinite. Now seeing the result of the STUPIDITY of morph devs is easy: even with 50 000 simultaneous morph users and 10 000 gnucleus users, start either morph or gnucleus and then search, on the most sources results do expended info, try to find a morpheus result, repeat to another serch result. Having morph results is somewhat lucky to say the least :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (if you see one it is from morph v3 not v4, hahaha) If you like P2P ban Morpheus from the clients you love: as simple as that. Now I don't want to talk more about "that".
MORe crap, MORpheus!

ok
 

case closed!

lol

um
 

No it does not harm the gnutella network because gnucleus and morpheus
both provide their own ultrapeers to support the load. It is true the
version of gnutella in gnucleus is not up to date, but it does not harm
the network for the reason above. The gnutella2 implementation took
time to do, but it was well worth it. We are in the process now of
updating the gnutella protocol to be more compatible with limewire and
bearshare clients.

- John

i e-mailed John Marshal, the developer of gnucdna

Wow that reply was stupid from John and proves he doesn't care about gnutella.... True gnucDNA has ultrapeers, so what, without them they would not even connect to gnutella :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What do you think makes that people are still using Morpheus... They get downloads!!!! From who: others clients!!! What they give back:nothing!!! What is the principle of P2P??? Sharing with others by providing available downloads.... GnucDNA is NOT P2Ping on Gnutella. It might be doing so on Gnutella2 (they do) but we could care less about that as it only benefits shareaza users.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

True, true, peerless they only have an app that integrate other pieces of work made outside morpheus and that before they were on fasttrack... However this does not make harmful, just creditless and shows how this company should die...;)

ok
 

ok so morpheus is a worthless peice of crap


but what do u all think of gnucleus?

Gnucleus would be good if you could desactivate gnutella support, using only the g2 protocol, where effort has been put on. Given a choice between gnucleus and morpheus, I'll take gnucleus in the second, however there are better gnutella alternatives and even other protocol to consider before I'd think using it full time rather than for testing purposes.

Ciao

There is nothing wrong with Morpheus AT ALL, Morpheus provides a decent amout of users to Gnutella & G2.

Here is a change log:

Class created for rolling averages, slower download hosts replaced with faster ones during transfer

Geo Loc methods added, QA bandwidth reduced, crawler extended
Reduced memory requirements of G2 Nodes (supposedly by almost half)
memory and bandwidth req decreased, profiled for less cpu
id3-less hashing (disabled)
Less memory used in g2 hub mode.
Optimized parts with a profiler (less cpu).
Less bandwidth used in G2 hub mode (acks not requested, optimized
response path)
Tested for long term stability.
Search auto-pause after 5 mins (large reduction of udp traffic)
Detection if client has been assigned a private IP address
Searching network more evenly distributed

Ah yes? You know anything we don´t know? Morpheus is bad for the Gnutella network several developers confirmed this, no propaganda will change this.

Morgwen

How about stop nagging about GnucDNA, because you know it all so good, and help John Marshall develop it? IT IS opensource you know...

The last change to GnucDNAr3 was approx 3 days ago, so the project is far from dead. John is working hard, and if you doubt he wants to be compatible with the_gdf, read the changelog and todo FFS.

GnucDNAr3 is for porting gnucdna to other platforms so I don't care, the changes in the last 8 months have been only on GnucDNAr2 (gnutella2), the gnutella implementation in harmful leeching and outdated. Plus the source code of gnucleus is diffucult to understand as John doesn't document is code. Now with the number of people using gnucdna you would think they commit patches but it isn't the case because the code sucks. You can compare that with LW and Gtk-gnutella that are open source but reveive many patches (even if gtk-gnutella is less known).

Die gnucdna die. I can't believe it has supporters, you must be blind.

Edit: If you want gnucDNA to be more loved ask John one thing:
1) removes the gnutella portion of gnucdna and become g2 only
or
2)gnucdna should never start up as an ultrapeer (this is the reason why I HATE gnucdna, but I do not like the fact that it leeches).

FYI I emailed this thread to John Marshall (gnucdna developper) just to have the feeling of playing fair;)

You make me laugh :p
GnucDNAr2 is BOTH G1 AND G2
imagine your "so perfect world"
Morpheus was kicked of kazaa.. they needed a network fast.. they started to develop their own gnutella implementation :D whahahhahahahaha
in that case Gnutella would be dead already.. maybe GnucDNA is not as good or as updated as you like... i get my files with it.. do i care i start as an ultrapeer? NO i just receive my files, and i am happy with it.
I don't like limewire java **** hogging resources on my system. I like bearshare though. i can't judge GTK-gnutella though, i don't use linux atm

You? No, as Trustyfiles users, ayzoo, users , morpheus users, gnucleus users, kiwi alpha users, webspider users, mynapster users.... and ton of others. But they take the foreign slots of LW (limited to 3 out of 32). Those slots are for having a better connectivity with other network parts such as bearshare and gtk-gnutella, once a buggy gnucDNA with automatic UP starts, it do not let this connectivity happens (they are only there to get results, then leech). That the biggest flaw of gnucDNA: the UP election scheme and it has been since 1.8 (UP support). Now that 32 outdegree is in gnucdna, I see Trustyfiles 2.2 starting as UP and then getting 32 other UP connections (mostly Limewires) and it doesn't have any leaf, this is what I call network harming big time.

Tell to John that UP selection is important because he doesn't seem to understand that. I mean with a proper UP selection theme, people would have realized that gnucDNA sucks already and wouldn't be using apps with this core (they would for g2).

Edit: hahaha Morph knew 6 months before that kazaa would kick them... That makes nearly 3 years (2 years and 3 months +6 months) if they would have devs, they would have created something, not only including other opensource apps (and the Neo which comes from an university).

LoL at Morph devs!!!:D :D