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morpheus 4.02 released

<http://www.morpheus.com>



only visible change is the media player has been rearranged

also it has a newer version of gnucdna

i don't kno if there is an official change log
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I see that they have made no improvements to the numerous outright lies that are liberally splattered all over the home page...

It is beyond the comprehension of numerous folks here to even begin to understand why you, swimkid, persist in touting this garbage that is so very harmful to the Gnutella Network...
It's bad enough that there is even a forum here for this monstrosity...
Why make any noise about it ?
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u need to chill out
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i never said morpheus was THE BEST EVER or anything i just thought i'd post the new version!

and how is morpheus harmfull to gnutella?

does that mean gnucleus is too?

or r u just saying that just because u don't like streamcast
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plus if this is the morpheus forum y do u have such a problem with one littel post about a new version?

that is beyond my comprehension
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i never said morpheus was THE BEST EVER or anything...
Never said you did !
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and how is morpheus harmfull to gnutella?
Behaviour.
Bad behaviour.
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does that mean gnucleus is too?
Are you thus declaring the two to be the same ?
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or r u just saying that just because u don't like streamcast


Amazing question...



btw, Many thanks for your suggestion re: my cryonic status, but my chill level seems to be sufficient at the moment.

It is worth noting again what an outrageous and incredibly stupid group of lies are published on their home page...

We've been through this one before...
Implying some form of special

Legal

status to a p2p client is a gross deception.
NO legitimate client does such crap.

And now, back to my frosty cool raspberry daiquiri !
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Sure you are right Swimkid, you can post the new version of morpheus here because it is their forum. However, it is PURE crap, and it slows down the Gnet (old written core of 2 years 1/2 without updating, a 99% leech it is a 100% profitor -read parasitic- in the new LW topology network and there are SO many reasons to not love it as it abuses some gwebcaches too). All should run away from that program and that why we (Ursula, I and others) prefer there isn't even news about it here. May it dies in a long agony from our collective memory. Amen

Ursula: gnucleus as the same parasitic behavior as morpheus as morph uses gnucdna, however we notice it less because it is a lot less popular. I should also say that it is the gnutella core of gnucdna that sucks, the gnutella 2 implementation is quite good, but I sure don't support that network

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alrighty then ,


i'm curious, what is this bad behavior u talked about?
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The bad behaviour is a lot technical, but as I said see them as leeches (the animal) and other clients as fishes.
The core is 2years and a half old (gnutella has evolve a lot in the past year with dynamic querying and high outdegree -things morph totally lack, and the developper of GnucDNA doesn't want to work on it-) , their ultrapeers are elected even when on 56k (meaning the GNet traffic isn't routed, thus no morpheus UP results...) etc etc at infinite. Now seeing the result of the STUPIDITY of morph devs is easy: even with 50 000 simultaneous morph users and 10 000 gnucleus users, start either morph or gnucleus and then search, on the most sources results do expended info, try to find a morpheus result, repeat to another serch result. Having morph results is somewhat lucky to say the least (if you see one it is from morph v3 not v4, hahaha) If you like P2P ban Morpheus from the clients you love: as simple as that. Now I don't want to talk more about "that".
MORe crap, MORpheus!
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case closed!

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No it does not harm the gnutella network because gnucleus and morpheus
both provide their own ultrapeers to support the load. It is true the
version of gnutella in gnucleus is not up to date, but it does not harm
the network for the reason above. The gnutella2 implementation took
time to do, but it was well worth it. We are in the process now of
updating the gnutella protocol to be more compatible with limewire and
bearshare clients.

- John

i e-mailed John Marshal, the developer of gnucdna
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Wow that reply was stupid from John and proves he doesn't care about gnutella.... True gnucDNA has ultrapeers, so what, without them they would not even connect to gnutella What do you think makes that people are still using Morpheus... They get downloads!!!! From who: others clients!!! What they give back:nothing!!! What is the principle of P2P??? Sharing with others by providing available downloads.... GnucDNA is NOT P2Ping on Gnutella. It might be doing so on Gnutella2 (they do) but we could care less about that as it only benefits shareaza users.

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True, true, peerless they only have an app that integrate other pieces of work made outside morpheus and that before they were on fasttrack... However this does not make harmful, just creditless and shows how this company should die...
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ok so morpheus is a worthless peice of crap


but what do u all think of gnucleus?
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Gnucleus would be good if you could desactivate gnutella support, using only the g2 protocol, where effort has been put on. Given a choice between gnucleus and morpheus, I'll take gnucleus in the second, however there are better gnutella alternatives and even other protocol to consider before I'd think using it full time rather than for testing purposes.

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