OH yeah sure:

"contains software licensed under GPL" blah blah blah

They are THIEVES, who having been cut off from fastrack, hijacked someone elses code and called it their own.

The typical Morph user doesnt understand anything about the fastrack/gnutella inner workings of the program, all they know is they cant leech like before.

I think streamcast is simply using Gnucleus code to buy time, until they can figure out how to get it together, or even what direction they are going to move (IE: they had the fastrack rug pulled out from under them by sharman, had no usable product of there own, stole gnucleus & rebranded.)

They stink and I hope they fess up or get sued(again)

I agree that what they did may be a little immoral and cheap, but legally as long as they follow the GPL they are OK. I suspect that there final product will just be gnucleus with an added media player and minor interface changes.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be so hot-headed, John Marshall seems thrilled that they are using his software for their engine.

It would just be nice if they would be more obvious that it was not, in fact, streamcast who developed the software, but then again if the GPL doesnt say thay have to, then they dont.

They come over to Gnutella and screw it up, leech everything, then they will take that and make their own little network using the same protocol but is incompatible with the real gnutella network, and after that we get dumped on.
Screw these guys.
You know the only way all these leechers got files and this thing got popular had to be because some corporate sneak set up some servers with every popular mp3 on them to make their network look good. I bet if you could have tracked it most files came from only a few dedicated machines offshore somewhere. If the RIAA ever connects that to them, the you know what is going to hit the fan (and good riddance to greedy theves!)
Look at their web site for god sake, who the F would ever think that is something cool?

We should all remember that in the end it can only be better for us because we get more users, which means more files. My original fear of crappy software has been disproved because they are using the great Gnucleus code base. In the end some of us may actually prefer Morpheous software over Gnucleus.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

I don't think so. Go to limewire.com and see the proportion hosts/hosts accepting incoming connections since Morpheus users came.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Remember, not all of the Morpheous users have come on yet, remember these are computer newbies. I have personally had to move over a few friends myself. Remember this transition won’t occur overnight. This may take a few weeks to stabilize. Most Morpheous users are probably lost with everything that is going on right now, just give it some time.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

As a Morpheus user, I'm pretty gutted about what's happened, and frankly don't give a toss about the politics behind it. Kind of amusing that you people are bitching about leeches, thieves and blah when the whole basis of P2P is morally suspect in itself.

All I know is that I'm back on Gnutella after ditching both Bearshare and Limewire in favour of a P2P system that actually worked for me. After Napster I found that downloading anything off Gnutella was like trying to pull my own teeth with a pair of tweezers, and hey! Nothing's changed! I've been trying to download since yesterday morning and so far haven't managed to get ONE SINGLE TRACK! :mad:

I may just have to shoot myself.

> Nothing's changed!

If you're using the Morpheus preview edition... then there's your problem. And, it doesn't help that the gap between stable, sharing users and people who are just downloading has grown.

It may be negative short term, but long term I think it will be beneficial.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

Then you must be a complete idiot cause it's not that bad. I get way too much stuff most of the time and have to delete it all so I don't fill up my 40 gig drive.
read some docs and get a clue how to set it up right.
This ain't aol anymore toto.

AOLers annoy me. I don't care if your computer stupid, just get a real ISP and don't think your all that with AOL. And by the way contrary to popular belief there is more to the internet than AOL. Actually AOL isn't even the internet, it is an online service that provides a crappy link to the real internet.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

Where did I mention AOL? You're the one with the reading problem, pal.

This is my point entirely about Gnutella, it isn't remotely user friendly. Why should I have to go get a fecking degree in programming to be able to use it? My Morpheus set up worked just fine without me having to comb the internet for hints and tips on how to set it up. I have to cope with a 56k connection, I can't afford a broadband connection. If I could I'd just go out and buy the CDs.

Sorry for not quoting it. My reply was in reguards to the last line of Mr. Unregistered's post.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

Let's get this thing back on topic. I just found an article on ZD-Net that is filled with inaccuracies, but still has tons of good info. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-851124.html

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy