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Post I don't know what to think.

After some thought I really don't know what to think. On one hand this is great because it attracts more people to our network, but that is the only thing that is good about it. There client software is nothing more than a slightly stripped down ~old~ version of Gnucleus. I understand this was a desperate early release to keep there user base, and I really hope they get better in the future.

My biggest fear is that they will just take and not give. They are used to leeching off of Stream Cast and I doubt that they even have any capable programmers. All they had to do with there old software was slap there logos and ads on it, and this is all they have done to Gnucleus.

On the other hand they could be a great asset and contribute a lot of development to the network and introduce new features. They are a big corporation and have deep pockets for development. But this is a double edged sword, being a big corporation and may not care about the needs of the smaller developers.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this all pans out. For now I’m gonna' keep using Gnucleus because it is newer and doesn't have any spyware/adware. Does anyone know if Music City has released the source yet, Gnucleus is GPL so they have to.

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Does anyone know if Music City has released the source yet, Gnucleus is GPL so they have to.
Yes but only the code based on Gnucleus!

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I'm happy as long as they release everything that is functional. I don't really care about there ad code or other useless crap.
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I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this all pans out. For now I’m gonna' keep using Gnucleus because it is newer and doesn't have any spyware/adware. Does anyone know if Music City has released the source yet, Gnucleus is GPL so they have to.
From a file called "legal.txt" distributed with the Morph preview:

"You may receive a machine readable copy of the source code for this software
from http://www.musiccity.com/ <http://www.musiccity.com/>.
This offer is valid for three years after the date on which you downloaded
the binary version of this software."

Quite cheesy of them to hijack Gnucleus, add adverts to pay for their "efforts" and give the Gnucleus developers no credit.
(Thievin' MoFo's!!)
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credit is given in help>about
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OH yeah sure:

"contains software licensed under GPL" blah blah blah

They are THIEVES, who having been cut off from fastrack, hijacked someone elses code and called it their own.

The typical Morph user doesnt understand anything about the fastrack/gnutella inner workings of the program, all they know is they cant leech like before.

I think streamcast is simply using Gnucleus code to buy time, until they can figure out how to get it together, or even what direction they are going to move (IE: they had the fastrack rug pulled out from under them by sharman, had no usable product of there own, stole gnucleus & rebranded.)

They stink and I hope they fess up or get sued(again)
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I agree that what they did may be a little immoral and cheap, but legally as long as they follow the GPL they are OK. I suspect that there final product will just be gnucleus with an added media player and minor interface changes.
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I agree that what they did may be a little immoral and cheap, but legally as long as they follow the GPL they are OK. I suspect that there final product will just be gnucleus with an added media player and minor interface changes.
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be so hot-headed, John Marshall seems thrilled that they are using his software for their engine.

It would just be nice if they would be more obvious that it was not, in fact, streamcast who developed the software, but then again if the GPL doesnt say thay have to, then they dont.
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They come over to Gnutella and screw it up, leech everything, then they will take that and make their own little network using the same protocol but is incompatible with the real gnutella network, and after that we get dumped on.
Screw these guys.
You know the only way all these leechers got files and this thing got popular had to be because some corporate sneak set up some servers with every popular mp3 on them to make their network look good. I bet if you could have tracked it most files came from only a few dedicated machines offshore somewhere. If the RIAA ever connects that to them, the you know what is going to hit the fan (and good riddance to greedy theves!)
Look at their web site for god sake, who the F would ever think that is something cool?
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We should all remember that in the end it can only be better for us because we get more users, which means more files. My original fear of crappy software has been disproved because they are using the great Gnucleus code base. In the end some of us may actually prefer Morpheous software over Gnucleus.
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