Morally suspect??? Ya mean like FTP & HTTP, the other internet file transferring protocols?

This kind of thinking fails to realize that not everyone who uses a P2P is a thief. Granted most may be, but you can't judge P2P by its usefulness to commit crime anymore than you can say the same about a car or hunting rifle.

I've had much better luck personally on Blubster than Fastrack anyway, and it seems to move rather fast, even at 56k

See above Re: Hunting Rifle.

Yeah, like most people don't use it to download copyrighted material. I'm hardly in a position to condemn it, just pointing out an irony. lol

I did manage to download one track off Morpheus Preview the other day(woohoo!), but it took me three days to do it. 90% of my trys end in failure to connect and the odd few that connect usually blow out in a few minutes. If this is because people close out Freeloaders, how many tracks to you have to have on your machine to stop this from happening? I usually keep between 60 - 100, as I don't have a lot of memory space left on my PC (less than a Gb, in fact).

I've tried to download Limewire, but can't get round a Java problem that keeps shutting the program down before it even starts. I asked a question about it in the Limewire forum but no-one has answered it (and I had version 1.3.1, so its not because its looking for the wrong version). So I downloaded Bearshare last night but haven't had a chance to try it properly yet. Seems very slow to connect, though. 15 mins now and its still trying.

Maybe I will try your suggestion, as I'm getting nowhere fast with the others. Thanx

True enough, and neither have I been able to resist temptation in that dept, I was simply pointing out there are legitimate uses besides, like I downloaded Bruce Eckles Programming books which are freeware books (and very good also).

The main problem with the Gnucleus client that Morpheus swiped is that it is not the current version, it wasn't even an upgraded version, it was just a quicky that Swabby put out to fix a specific bug like months ago... there have been many improvements since, and I type all this because Ive seen a lot of bashing of the client by the Morpheus users who don't realize what theyre getting..sigh

I been testing out limewire a bit and, I gotta tell ya the new Java Runtime 1.4.0 is much more reliable, but you gotta go get it from sun.com (9mb) and install it then it should work fine.

If u are interested in mp3s blubster is the best right now, and lots of people seem to be discovering it so lots more tunes are appearing.. only bad thing is no auto resume (oh yeah and a cheesy looking website, but it functions well)

Have fun ..... and if you are asked if you ever do anything illegal online JUST SAY NO!!!!

I have to agree that Morpheus was easier to set-up than any Gnutella client I've ever used, it gave me more results, and downloading was more reliable because it would almost always find several other sources and do concurrent downloading.

Saying that, I still prefer the Gnutella network, not least because I don't have to use WINE because Qtella is godlike!

I have more control over the way my client interacts with the network, which is nice because I love seeing what's going on, browsing through the pointless but interesting statistics Qtella throws out. I love being able to manually connect, disconnect and block hosts, so I can tweak my hosts list so I am connected to hosts with as many connections as possible. It's so much more *fun* than it working straight away. But then I guess I'm not your average joe user there lol

Personally I think the great strength of any Gnutella client is the Gnutella network. We can't be shut down, and our clients are, mostly, open sourced and under the GPL so we don't have to worry about our company coming under legal fire. And you can't easily download whole albums of a decent, constant quality (unless you've got a great connection), so I'm stopped from ever getting tempted to just download all my music. I love being able to download a few songs from a group I've heard of, and decide on that whether or not to bu ya CD.

If more people could leave their machines on 24/7 as decent nodes, the network would only get better and better And we should be grateful for Morpheus using the Gnutella network, with a gnutella client as the base, because it means we get huge numbers of users added to the network running on a decent engine. Sure they can close-source the interface and try to tweak the client's performance, but they can't do much to the protocol without fully involving the community. Who knows, maybe they'll try to get involved with protocol work and we'll all be a lot better off!

I think most KDE/QT apps are pretty cool, however I also can't say that I have ever heard of anyone that actually uses Qtella

Most people I would suspect wouldn't download all of their music, as it it too much of a pain in the butt to find it all, no matter what network you are on, and the quality lacks as compared to a CD.

The record labels would probably get far more sold if they just stopped trying to milk every dollar out of their customers and sold the dam things for a reasonable cost(and got some decent acts instead of S hitney Squeers 7 the Buttlick boyz). So I agree you can test drive a car before you buy, why not ?

It's not the fact of Morpheus users that are the problem, its that Streamcast didn't fully prepare their community to make the switch, and besides, it's all a money thang to them.. I don't trust Streamcast to clean my toilet, let alone develop any improvements to the client they ripped off without credit to the developer.

The big thing to keeping the Gnutella network healthy is to keep incoming connections going so that the bandwidth is shared all around.

Yes, but what reason do they have to slow their wonderful cable modem connection down? They get what they want and turn it off.

It would be helpful if the developers would make there software run in the system tray on startup, the average joe won't know the difference.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

This Guntella morpheus ***, i wish i had my old morpheus network back, or atleast Godamn napster. On those two networks users atually shared files, nothing but abunch of *** leaches on Guntella morpheus. No one wants to share a *** file but they all want to download. Is there any file share program/ network that is worth a *** left out there??!?!?!?!

Calm down dude. People would be much more willing to answer your questions if you were a little more polite.

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Michael Camilleri
Formerly: Trademark95, Yellow5Guy

Really Morpheus users weren't any better than Gnutella network users, it was just that the system of downloading each file from more than one person at once meant that you always had a few sources at any one time. If you watched the list of people you were downloading from, they'd often switch and drop off the list. It's just because no Gnutella clients, to my knowledge, implement the same system, and in fact it'd be very difficult to given the nature of the network.

When i first discovered morpheus it was great. I toyed arround with limewire and others, but it was almost impossible to make a download on my 56k modem. Fed up with gnutella (although i loved the GPL thing and all the open source), i tried morpheus partly because it had no spyware, and voila, I can download 100MB files along days, without worrying about shuting my connection of, or not finding the right guy, etc. Maybe things have changed, but as i remebered, the gnutella protocol sucked compared to the one used by morpheus and kazaa, especially for my poor dial-up connection.

I admit that i'm wrong, so could someone please tell me in what gnutella is better, mainly, does gnutella allow multiple downloads and resuming?? I think it does allow resumes, but not multiple downloads. As i said, the experience I had it sucked. Even when i managed to get a stable connection, finishing a download was almost impossible(at 98% the transfer would fail). And (at least i thought that) i had to remain connected through all the download, no resumes.

About all that "morpheu users are leechers", come on, if that was the case it wouldn't work, and it worked very well.
Besides, with morpheus it was easy to share; because of the multiple connections it is easier to share files through a dial-up line. Even if my upload bandwith is low, there will be lots of other with small bandwith that together will allow a fast download.


In windows i'm using kazaa now, i tried morpheus for a while and all the bad experience in gnutella came back again. In my Linux system i might try gnutella again to see if i like it.