what does it matter to you if a developer answers your post or a 'regular' user? you don't even know if it is a developer!

Limewire has come up with a whole bunch of features that other clients also added because they are good for the network.
but i guess you don't care about development and improvements.

so i will just repeat what i already told you:
It is impossible to find a bug if no one reporting the bug also reports his/her limewire version, operating system, other relevant issues and a (detailed) error description. the words 'it does not work' mean nothing. how the heck are you supposed to fix a plane if someone tells you it does not fly? a plane is complex. it might be the eninges, the hydraulics, the wings, the weight... who knows?

come down and do something usefull like finding out under which circumstances a bug occours, try around. and then report your bug in the forum.

you need a damn lot of attention for your age! assuming you are older than five years old!

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There aren't that many open source developers (and only a few are posting in this forum). If you look at your LimeWire about window you will find the following names:
Richie Bielak, Jerry Charumilind, Marvin Chase,
David Graff, Andy Hedges, Michael Hirsch, Gordon Mohr, Chance Moore, Gregorio Roper, William Rucklidge, Philippe Verdy, Stephan Weber and Fabian Merki (missing in that listing). As far as I know only one of them is posting here every now and then. It's probably more likely to meet a real limewire developer here, than meeting an open-sourcer.

However the limewire developers are really busy people, and they are working hard on big improvements for the next version. They don't have much time for answering questions of their users and some of the users in this forum will know the answers to your questions, so why would you want to wait for some comment from developers?

I posted the thread about the change log and while i supported you at first unregistered, i think you're missing the point now. your argument is that there aren't any updates to the program, but there are. there's lots of improvements to the program, the interface, & the network that have been implemented since i started using limewire a few months ago, you just can't see most of them or notice them unless you download a lot like i do. limewire is a complex program and there are only a few people working on it so you can't expect changes overnight. i'm sure that if there were a up-to-date change log (back to my rant), you would understand that they're making progress and changes are being made. that's just all the more reason to MAKE A CHANGE LOG!!!

Hey, when you pay for something you expect it to work right? Now if this was a free program supported only by ads I would not be here complaining. Now you rich foke out there can throw 10 bucks left and right and not care. Ten bucks for me is no big deal, the big deal is that we all pay for a program that works. Granted it has some nice features and the developers/prgramers are hard at work. BUT YOU DON'T PROMISE SPECIFIC UPDATES AND FEATURES AND NOT IMPLIMENT THEM! That is the whole point of this thread. Get that through your head. Read the thread Title. I am not complaining about the network. Gneutella is one of the best things to come around since the internet. But alot of people purchase these programs reading the forums and expecting updates. We all know its an ongoing process and yes it is hard, but the point is not to ask people what features they want when it takes nearly 6 months (Ongoing) to implement them.

Improve the network FINE! Tell US! Dont update the dang program and expect us to update if you dont tell us just what has been updated. If this program was strickly Freeware then it would be different. But now paying customers want to be answered.

If you like this program so much then you dont even need to come to the new features request forum because it obviously is good enoph for you!

No one here even knows what is going on with the program. Thats the point. Understand?

I am starting to agree with the Thread creator here. I used to be totaly supportive of limewire and even went out and purchased it because it had potential. But it seems things have slowed way down. Hokey dory updates about every week and nothing major since the Interface changed. True there are some neat features that have been added since then, but nothing that we are all asking for.

Check out this forum. It seems that alot of people are mad at LW right now.

LimeWire ''team'', NOT!

Everyone has their own opinion and while I think this thread is getting out of control there are some good points on both sides. Only Sales will determine which side is right. And I am sure LW does not post earnings every month So we will never really know what is going on untill they themselves come out and talk.

The next version will come, when it's ready. With a development cycle of about one month LimeWire development is still very fast. Believe me if I was in charge of LimeWire development I would not keep it up.

Relax!

Both must be improved the network/protocol and the client, its senseless to add features which are not supported by the protocol! Developement and testing needs a lot of time, do you want a version full of bugs?

If you want infos about updates visit www.limewire.com !

If you found a bug, send them a mail!

Limewire updates the product very often, and they sure cannot add every feature, only if more user request this feature they will do it, and as I said this needs time!


Morgwen

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Morgwen, thanks for the response. the problem is, there's nothing on the website. i've looked. i've looked and looked and looked some more and there's nothing. i've gone through every page and clicked on every link and no where do they have version information. please tell me where i should be looking specifically. you might have access to something i don't, if so, i'd be very grateful if you shared.

I guess it will just take time to work out anything. Everyone here has some really good points, and each are justified. But I see a trend happening here and its not good for LimeWire. I think what everyone is mad about is that their are no updates on the web page or the forums telling us just what is going on with the program. I understand it takes alot of time to do any programing, especialy with a limited staff, but status updates weekly would calm alot of people down and make them consider keeping with LW. I too am a bit upset that I dont know what is going on with the program and I payed for it thinking it would be regularly updated with the features that we all ask. Thats why I got it. LW to date is one of the most User friendly doors to date. (In my opinion) So lets just see what happens and if LW will do anything about the complaints.

First of all it isn't that hard to find the new features at www.limewire.com. Just look at the home page, near the top. Theres' a link that says FEATURES, if you still can't find it the link is http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/features. See, now that wasn't so hard.

But anyways. I think that LW is doing great and you people are taking this a little far. People aren't going to leave just because they don't answer some of the stupid questions like "why won't my scroll wheel work." They'll leave if they don't see any updates or there is some major bugs. I've tryed several clients before LimeWire and I choose it because I can see that it's progressing and more importantly it's the first one that didn't crash all the time or screw up my computer.

I still partially agree with some of the things said in this thread. A lot of the questions aren't being answerd and the programmers seem out of touch from a user's point of view. I'm not saying that they should drop what their doing to reply to every posting, but mabey consider bringing on some people who are at least partially involved with the programmers who can frequent the forums and stuff. Also, even though there is a features list, it reads like the back of a software box. How about making a new section in the forum where the programers will start a new thread for every new feature, explaning what it does and why we should care. Then all the users could give there input on how they like it and how it might be inproved.



If you frequent these forums please just REGISTER. It's not that hard and that way people would know who to respond to.

I agree with you. Limewire is a very good program indeed. It has its good points. But then agian it has its bad points. I think we are exposing the bad points because everyone is left in the dark about alot of stuff. If the developers took an hour every couple of days to answer the importaint questions then things would be a little better. I think a brand new folder should be opened for the developers to post updates on the status of the programing, and also the aproximate time to complete. Also since we pro users pay for six months I think they can update the program more often and just add less features every time instead of trying to bundle them all in at one big upgrade. My 6 months is about to expire and I would like to get in one more update before it does. If I like it, I will buy it agian. Everyone has some great points though and it will just take time to sort through them.

http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/features

go look there for a second. ok, then go to http://www9.limewire.com:82/download/ and look at the upgrade dates. i think you'll find that 2.3.0 was posted on 14-Mar-2002, which is just over 2 and a half months ago. you may not be familiar with how software works, but software in development changes very fast. in two and a half months, you may have a completely new program from what you had before. this isn't a change log, this is a features list for people who want to know what they're buying. it still doesn't solve any of the reasons we need a change log, namely keeping people informed and saying what's in the newest release so people know if they want to update. i'm sure you didn't mean to be satirical completely derisive of our concerns, but that's how you came across with your message. please be more careful with your words.

The point that I was trying to make was that all of these people say that they can't find any one thing on the updates. Even when someone posted that some information could be found at www.limewire.com they still couldn't find it. I just hate it when people don't go as far as to look a little further before they go complaning to someone else.

If you would have read beyond the first paragraph of my post you would have seen that I beleave that things should be changed. Part of running any kind of business is customer support. ;^P

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HUGE hashing is here, and browse host is back. How's that for changes? It may not be released yet, but it is in the CVS, and is close to release I'm sure. I compiled it and released it as an unofficial beta hehe. It works fine, and I'm glad to see the changes.

The UI was not changed much at all though, so the complaints about lack of changes will likely continue to flow in

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The cvs doesn't contain many improvements over the old version at the moment. The huge code isn't complete yet and still lacks the alternate location support for downloads.