Adding files by browser

Vegan · #1 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

It would be helpful for Limewire to be able to use a URL device like eMule to click on a link, and add the files to the download queue. This would make it easy to build a list of files in HTML and make it easier to add to the queue for downloading as parts become available. Limewire is far more widely used and this capability would extend Limwire's potential for distribution greatly.

Sleepless · #2 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

It is already possible. While I'm not completely familiar with the process, it is explained here:

How to use Bitzi Web Lookup .. & How to use Magnet Links & Direct Connect/Browse/Chat

Vegan · #3 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

Those links are all dead

Sleepless · #4 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

While the links are dead the post I directed to wasn't

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOTR

For Magnet links (See image below), this is also a very effective method of sending particular files to other people. Go to your LW Library window, select the file you wish to send, Right-click (Control-click for mac users) & select Magnet Details for file, & your browser will open & give you the details of the magnet link. Use the link opposite the 'Magnet' word. Then copy & paste this link address & email or send it via chat to your friend. They can copy & paste this magnet link address into their browser & the browser will send the details to their LW which will immediately open & start to downld the file. Of course you should have LW open at that time so they can access your LW shared files. Once they are connected, they & you can browse each other's files. Remember to browse someone it's best to have Chat enabled. (Image below is purely an example & some details been changed.)

Vegan · #5 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

I found a tool called maketorrent that is adequate for making a.torrent fie that I can post on a web page so clicking on it can download 290 files easily without problems. The tool can make a torrent for each file or for the whole lot, like I chose.

Now limewire users wanting the files, can load them into the download queue and wait for the 7GB of files I wanted to share.

The files are tablebases for computer chess, the torrent is for all end-game positions with 5 pieces on the board. I have an MD5 for 6 pieces, which is a few thousand files, but I dont have enough disk space for the 1.2 TB to create the torrent file from at present.

P2P with torrents makes sense considering the volume of files for this add-on to a chess game. It takes a powerful computer to make them, P2P makes distrinution to interested players a no-brainer.

Sleepless · #6 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

I would not at all recommend Limewire for such an action. There are brilliant torrent clients that do just what you are describing already. In my opinion Limewire in severely lacking in that area.

Well the rest of my post got lost

so here is the short version

If these are legal files then have the torrents hosted at BitTorrent inc or use Azureus Vuse to host them.

BTW I hope that 1.2TB is a spelling error because noone wants files that big.

Vegan · #7 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

Its not, 1.2 TB is the compressed version, the uncompressed set is 4.7 TB. As for the torrent, its now posted for 5 pieces, 1 click to add 5 piece tablebases to your favorite chess program. The tablebases make a dramatic improvement in game play in the end game where chess programs are notoriously weak.

Computer CHess has the torrent for 5 pieces along with info for the remainder of the parts, along with some general info on computer chess.

Why not make P2P do something legit for a change.

Sleepless · #8 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

I agree wholeheartedly, although 1.2TB is extremely large. My interest is mostly music though.

You should link to some good clients on that page, because like you said Limewire is widely used, which I take as implying other BitTorrents clients aren't. I would recommend Azureus, uTorrent and as long as it's legal the official BitTorrent client.

Vegan · #9 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

Unfortunately music on P2P while commonplace is not legal in the US but everywhere else its tolerated to one degree or another.

Because the tablebases are so large, P2P is useful as the FTP error correction capability is weak when dealing with large files.

The problem is because of abuses, some P2P software vendors have been sued to death. Others like Limewire are under constant fire but remain quasi legal because of the disclamers.

Legit uses exist, the computer chess is one example. The problem is that everyone shares music, and no wonder the RIAA is suing. On my system, only tablebases, al 7.05GB of them are shared.

Still looking for a magnet creation tool, to suplement the torrent by offering a choice to users who want to download free tablebases to enhance their chess game.

Chess is extremely popular in Europe, where it is played widely and where 3/4 chess engines come from.

Sleepless · #10 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

All music isn't illegal. E.g. take a look in the lounge here where I posted a link to the first part of the newest Nine Inch Nails release. The band have uploaded the torrent themselves, so everyone can grab it. Also this helps with the cost of distribution as people aren't just grabbing it of a server.

Like I said Limewire sucks for big files while BitTorrent is perfect for it. When a torrent gets added to Limewire, it gets renamed and in case of corruption, it more then once has happened that the parts already downloaded were unusable.

Regular BitTorrent programs on the other hand have no problem checking half done files and figuring out what parts are missing.

Let's just for discussions sake say that this is doable, because it is. Just the devs don't seem to care.

Firstly, Limewire has to stop renaming incomplete downloads
Then even if a file gets corrupted, it will still be possible to just add the torrent again and recheck the pieces that are already in the incomplete folder.

If that is done the failure rate would already be drastically decreased.

BTW I don't know if they have already done this, but I seriously doubt it. When they starting on making the Hybrid Limewire, they completely ignored the people saying that they were doing it wrong.

This is the same thing that is wrong when people are unable to restart incomplete downloads from the Gnutella network. Limewire losing it's connection with the file??? What make the connection necessary in the first place by renaming and performing unnecessary task..

Vegan · #11 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

It is true that some artists want to be distributed to gain wareness. But generaly most do not. I am not an expert in th field, but as I said there are legitamate uses for P2P and as such the excesses of the RIAA et al are going to get them in hot water. I await their lawyers as I have several P2P program running all day every day.

Bite me, tablebases are public domain.

Sleepless · #12 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

lol. I actually did a paper on their stupidity in Business School. Main project. Got a B+ or A- (I think it would be equivalent to those grades) would have been an A if not for the size limit. I wasn't allowed to go above 5,000 words - minus quotes, explanation of graphs etc. If it only would have been 7,500 instead, then I could have fit even more arguments in there.

Three most stupid things ever to come from the record industry:

1. Digital Rights Management
2. Suing College kids
3. Takedown of Oink's Pink Palace

Vegan · #13 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

Well no luck finding a magnet file creator, guess there is none to be had. So torrents are all there will be until I can make some of the other non gnutella P2P programs use web links like a torrent.

Sleepless · #14 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

I think the Magnet links work on webpages, problem is Gnutella works with files not folders. i.e. You need to make one for every single files or make zip files. Also If I'm not mistaken you cannot share files larger than 2GB in gnutella.

Vegan · #15 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2008

You can share files bigger theen 2Gb no problem with Limewire et al. Look for all the DVD ISO images being posted all over.

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