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Old February 1st, 2004
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Default Avoiding Legal Charges

I am interested in purchasing the pro copy of LimeWire - with all of the recent talk of people being charged for downloading "free" music, does the professional edition eliminate this threat, since I would, in a sense, be paying for the downloads?

Any assistance or guidance in this matter would be most appreciated.

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Nope, not in the slightest.

Sharing copyrighted material without permission ain't legal. However, there are a few pay-per-download systems from which copyrighted mp3s can be bought with the copyright holders permission, and there are of course lots of genuinely uncopyrighted mp3s available on P2P networks. I can't claim any great taste in music myself, but some of the genuinely free music is a lot better than some of the stuff churned out by the music industry.
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Default Re: Avoiding Legal Charges

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I am interested in purchasing the pro copy of LimeWire - with all of the recent talk of people being charged for downloading "free" music, does the professional edition eliminate this threat, since I would, in a sense, be paying for the downloads?
You pay ONLY for Limewire - nothing more...

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aren't most of the riaa subpoenas against kazaa users anyway, not gnutella users?
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The RIAA is attacking Kazaa simply because of the amount of users it has. They could attack any P2P that doesen't require you to pay to download.

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y r u paying for it if u can download it directly by simple method

if u r intrested i can tell u more
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you can compile LW for free (open source), download the free installer, download installers others have compiled, etc etc etc.

If you pay, you are giving SUPPORT for the development of the LW project.
http://www.limewire.org/

I wish LW would have kept the idea that it's really a donation, but . . .
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Default Legal For Educational Purposes?

Someone told me there's a law somewhere that says you can gack anything and even use it on your website if it's for education and not entertainment. Sounds like urban legend to me but I trust this person (trustwise, maybe not brainwise) and she says her lawyer verified it. If I download a Dead Kennedys song and listen to it to understand the psychology of aggression is it legal?

I'm half joking, half not. I've had to listen to stuff for school in humanities classes (Beethoven, etc.) and besides, I just don't get why it's legal for me to gack pictures for my website but I can't go near music!
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Huge corporations like the RIAA, micro$oft, and Wal-Mart, are in a sense above the law. I think the RIAA would persue you just the same. They have the financial backing to do just about anything they want to. It's the sad truth.


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Quote: 'why it's legal for me to gack pictures for my website'
But is it legal? In my web training we were told we had to stay away from pics we had no given permission to use, ie: copyright breach.
(How do you define gack by the way?) Not that I know much/anything about laws governing the net (which is a complex issue anyway since the breacher could be in any country.) So then whose laws would apply? How do you sue a monk from Tibet (just a clumsy example)? (I guess big money spending co.'s find a way!)
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Default Title 17, Section 107

OK I found the actual title. I looked this up on the internet (not that I believe ANYTHING I read on the internet) and couldn't find much in terms of verification but I did find a few other people using it:

"Written material or images copyrighted under U.S. law may be used here without permission. United States Code, Title 17, Section 107, provides for fair use of copyrighted materials for purposes of comment and criticism in a nonprofit manner."

My philosophy on the subject of copyright is, sadly enough, not very helpful to other people. My philosophy is that I'm too poor to be affected. I'm too poor to keep my computer running at night or buy a new one if I run it all the time and the hard drive goes, and therefore I'm probably in the lowest 1% of files downloaded and uploaded. I'm also too poor to bother taking to court if you're Steven Spielberg and you see a picture of Harrision Ford on a website I operate that praises the s*** out of you and your movies anyway.

If Microsoft or any other huge, evil company wanted to make an example out of someone for dressing like a fool in public I'd be their girl; but as far as copyright goes they'd look stupid coming after me. I know this doesn't help saying this, because maybe someday I will have enough money to download zillions of free files....

Wait a minute. Does anyone see the irony in that?
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'US' 'Law' has a major play on what gets displayed on the net as such, but their laws are not universal, & copyright laws vary from country to country as to their 'real' control. (It can take quite some effort & time (& a lot more money) to muster an attack upon individuals in countries where the copyright laws don't apply (or even apply for that matter!) It ends up of course on a national political level & man can money walk hand in hand with politics when major political financial supporters kick up the dust! And dust ends up in everybody's eyes (propaganda.) But, when the US is paly with another country, favors can be done. ('Who' was it 'talking' again?) [One way or another it equates to the same language!] I have a friend who had political influence indirectly put upon him via the US to closedown his site in 'more ways than one'. He still publishes his works, though on a more lower level. Requests for his works pm me (do NOT email me!) So much for 'Free Speech'! I wonder why .... So much for democracy & the country of the free. (Free to do what exactly?)
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As for me, I think as long as you aren't using the music you're sharing to earn profit, it should be legal. But, the govt always has different views.

So basically. use LW and hope you don't get caught.
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Interesting point of view. Which brings me to answer a previous point in a post about utilising pics on websites. Apparently in USA you can utilise pics on your website that don't belong to you so long as it's not for profitable purposes (I can't remember the specific law no. but can locate it if necessary.) That's certainly different to my country's laws. No wonder people are keen to set up websites in the US. However as for music... if there's copyright then it generally applies to playback for public issues that must be followed.

Bosnianheat26 using p2p for accessing music you might otherwise have bought is an issue. But if you would not have bought it, but just dwnlded it out of curiousity or to try it out so to speak, then (as another opinion) arguably it shouldn't be considered as bad. If you decided the music inspired you, then you could go out & buy further recordings of that artist. Try before you buy type of thing. And then of course there's those music lovers who can never get enough of the music they buy & are forced to find alternative sources for recordings such as live concerts that would never be commercially released to the public. I know people who fall into that category.

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Default That One Law About Pics In the U.S.

Saw this on a website. Hi Lord!
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COPYRIGHT ISSUES AND FAIR USE
This site may contain copyrighted material, the use of which may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making this material available in efforts to advance the understanding of different issues related to this subject of the site, talented and attractive xxxxxxxx actress xxxxx xxxxx. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in Section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use such copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use' you MUST obtain permission from the copyright owner.

IN OTHER WORDS this is a non-profit site, and if you see your material here:

(1) thanks! and (2) you're getting a free plug, so chill.

If this is not your material and you plan on borrowing it, that's cool with us, but you do it at your own risk, and we would appreciate it if you'd be polite and give credit to the actual owners because unlike you and me they have a real job.

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

United States Code: Title 17, Section 107
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/unframed/17/107.html
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