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I found the explanation most helpful, and am grateful that someone took the time and effort to spell it out in great detail... but I'm just one person.
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>>deckerd26354, your questions have nothing to do with what I posted about Optimising LW. Please post them in a different thread

'kay....Which forum would you recommend that I start a thread in, that's appropriate for my previous questions, and any other admin, tech-savvy-type questions I may have? By the way, I have purchased LimeWire Pro...

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Open discussion or Windows Support (the first choice is probably more appropriate).
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Dividing both by 8 (to have them in Bytes because that's how LW shows them) you get around 185 KB
Remember that a KB is 1024 Bytes not 1000.

A computer is using binaries, not the decimal system.

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To calculate bits to bytes (or the other way around...)http://www.beesky.com/newsite/bit_by...00&kilobytes=1
1 byte is still 8 bits. It gets a little weirder when you start mutliplying the bits (or bytes) by 10^x.
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1 byte is still 8 bits.
Yes one byte is 8 bits, but you calculated with 1 KB = 1000 bytes and not 1024 bytes - check your result!

More info:

http://familyinternet.about.com/cs/c.../aa052401a.htm

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Thanks for that link murasame. Looks like sometimes a kilobit is 1000 bits, sometimes it is 1024
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Looks like sometimes a kilobit is 1000 bits, sometimes it is 1024
True is that a kilobit is 1024 bits, as I said a computer uses binaries and not the decimal system:

1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc. this are the possible meausures. This is also the reason why the memory can´t have for example 50Mb or 100Mb. meausures that you can divide through 10 are always rounded!

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True: binary for computer architecture (RAM, HD . . . )

decimal for communications bits.

So ISP bandwidth (the topic of this thread) is measured in decimal bits.
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I have never heard anything about decimal bits, do you have a link?

As I said if you can divide it by 10 is ALWAYS rounded. Its technically not possible to tranfer data as a decimal!

A bit is only one energy impulse, you need 8 bits to display a sign (a byte).

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it's on the bottom of the page from murasame's link http://www.beesky.com/newsite/bit_byte.htm

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Data Transmission conversion (kilobit):
In data communications, a kilobit is a thousand bits, or 1,000 (103) bits. It's commonly used for measuring the amount of data that is transferred in a second between two telecommunication points. Kilobits per second is usually shortened to Kbps.

Some sources define a kilobit to mean 1,024 (that is, 210) bits. Although the bit is a unit of the binary number system, bits in data communications are discrete signal pulses and have historically been counted using the decimal number system. For example, 28.8 kilobits per second (Kbps) is 28,800 bits per second. Because of computer architecture and memory address boundaries, bytes are always some multiple or exponent of two.
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Ok I see. But Stief if you notice the conversation we talked about Kilobytes!

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Because of computer architecture and memory address boundaries, bytes are always some multiple or exponent of two.
Seems like a kilobyte is also for tranfers 1024 bits.

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Yes, I noticed.

The two standards give lots of chances for confusion, and it's hard to know (and not often particularly relevant) which system a program/ISP uses. Download speeds with BYTES might refer either to a casual abbreviation of communication speed OR to the speed it is being written to the hard drive. Only the developers know for sure

Just try working here in Canada with "ounces"! Caught between the British Imperial system and the US system, and confused by mass and volume "ounces", there is lots of room for confusion, especially with Grandma's recipes
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er i have dialup any pointers?
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