Dear Alfred

You said:I would like to ask, you have now got a lifetime membership, to what exactly?

So, this scam site (AllCoolMusic) decided to rip you off for $24.95 instead of $34.95 with an additional 99c per month and you are happy?

Alfred, let me explain the facts of life.

a) Your lifetime membership is to NOTHING because the so-called club you have bought into does not exist.

b) LW Basic is free and LW Pro cost $18.88, for that you get 6 months worth of updates/upgardes, and is available from here:

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/download.shtml

c) Get on to your credit company, tell them you have been conned, and get your money back.

d) The P2P network consist of thousands of PC users like you and me from around the world, running LW, LWPro or some other P2P software on their PCs, this is what enables you to connect to and download from them and, likewise, them from you.

e) Because the P2P network consist of thousands of individually owned PCs no one has the right to or can sell you access to this network, access is freely available.

f) No one, no company or organisation can promise or guarantee that you will be able to download anything from the P2P network, PC users/owners (only) decide what they will put on and make available to share from their PCs.

There are probably another dozen of so points I could make but I think you now have the gist of it.

Alfred, do not let the scammers get away with selling you nothing, try and get your money back.




UK Bob

Well, I have ALMOST been scammed!

I guess that I have to thank you and my suspicious nature that this has not indeed happened.

I wanted to download some tv shows legally. I searched the net and came across some sites. They all offered all these fabulous stuff... But, it did seem too good to be true.

I tried to find what the others say about them. I found a few reviews that sung praises (quess they were scam too). However, I just wasn't comfortable with, for example, not even being able to see faq without signing in (and giving credit card number!!!). And I kept looking for some more information until I found this forum.

So, THANK YOU for sparing me a great deal of frustration and money!

What was the name of the site that asked you to be 'registered' with before you could look at the FAQ's. This information is crucial so as to help others of those who have been 'scammed' so they can give the info to their Credit Card company.

I for one do not recall seeing the site MP3-Downloading.com until I have given my CC details to get 'free downloads' Obviously cookies have been aplied here so that you can't see the site until details have been given.

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Arcticfox

Imagination is more important than knowledge, - Albert Einstein

freemovienow.com

BTW, is there a way to legally download tv shows? LimeWire is great about music, but nobody seems to have tv shows I want

Try this Thanks for the info on the scam site.

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Arcticfox

Imagination is more important than knowledge, - Albert Einstein

Hm, your link looks very suspicious.

For one thing, it has three options of membership, and we have all learned what that means...

Apologies, I never checked it out

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Arcticfox

Imagination is more important than knowledge, - Albert Einstein

When I said I got a warm feeling I was being ironic, now that I know better. At the time I subscribed I knew nothing at all about the Gnutella network and hadn't heard about Limewire. I didn't know the network is free. (Am I right to believe this?) Now I know that a lot of sites are selling LW and use of the network.

Alfred

I have been reading your posts, and I have been done too, and I thought I would add my bit. I originally went to www,top-rated-mp3sites.com and I then went to a reviewed site www.MP3MusicLive.com where i consequently paid $37.41 US for free limewire. They said they have online tutorials and live web chats, which are nowhere to be seen in cyberspace and the one thing they do have are ads, which they said they didnt!
Please note all users that the review site contains all spam sites as far as I could tell. Another intersting fact is that if you do a google search for say... free mp3 downloads, or even free tv show downloads then you will be certain to find sites that all look remarkably similar......if you get my drift! ALSO BEWARE: BECAUSE OF LOW SECURITY SETTING NEEDED FOR SITE HACKERS ENTERED MY COMPUTER AND CAN ENTER YOURS TOO IF NOT CAREFUL.
I could say alot more......but I am sure you will be sick of reading by now!
Thank-you all for your help if it werent talking on this forum, I wouldn't have figured it out!

I finally got ahold of someone at "mp3livemusic.com." Told them that I knew I had been scammed and demanded my money back. The operator was very rude and tried to dispute that in nowhere did it say that I was purchasing LIMEWIRE Pro, but only a Pro version of their "support." I then informed them of my family friend who was an attorney (this is a true story lol) and that he had read my confirmation email from them and transcipts from this forum of people that were getting taken advantage of just like me. I informed them that this was indeed a scam and that if they did not want a class action lawsuit filed, that they would give me back my money. She snidely laughed and agreed to credit back my cc in full within 7-10 business days. I guess we'll see.

I feel they are trying Plan 2 by saying they will return the sum back to your credit card in 7 - 10 business days. Why should it take that length of time? Could it be that this is another delaying tactic to wear you down?

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Arcticfox

Imagination is more important than knowledge, - Albert Einstein

I supposedly got a reduced rate for the basic and the pro which ended up costing around 47 is that a scam?

In a word, yes.

hi lord of the rings,
below is the address of the site that scammed me, after asking for a refund and them originally saying yes, they now say i am not eligible for a refund. so i went back to my bank and made a fuss and put it in writing and they are looking at it now, after saying it wasn't there problem (it's amazing how things change when your face to face and not on the phone to some foriegner who will never see you so doesn't care) don't know if i,ll ever get my money back but i aint givin up now

ukbobboy i'll owe you a drink if i ever do get it back i mght have thought you a bit harsh but your words sunk in and i am determined to see it through i wont be scammed again and i will pass my knowledge on to others little though it is

Spar1691

Cheers for that, I am glad you took my comments in the way they were meant and not as a personal attacks, which some people mistakenly believe.

You know, I get angry when ordinary working people get ripped off by scammers and I believe that victims of these sites should not sit quietly back and just accept it. They should demand their money back and push their credit card companies and banks not to do business with parasites (rip-off merchants). After all, if the banks did not provide the necessary banking facilities these scam site would not be able to rip people off.

That’s why, in part, I changed the tone of my advice from "soapy soft" to "harsh" to tell people that if you don’t look after your money no one else will. Because the banks and CCs are only interested in the fees each transaction generates they don’t give a “flying toss” that a scam site customer is actually a victim of fraud. Unfortunately, that did not go down too well and people got angry with me instead of the site that ripped them off.

Spar1691, I am sorry the scammers won’t give you your money back but that is as expected, but the bank, as a respected institution, has a moral obligation to refund your money (which they can readily do by debiting the scammer’s account). Because they, the banks, provided the crooks and parasites with the necessary facilities that allowed you, and countless others, to be ripped off, so they should do something about it.

Anyway, good luck and we’ll meet up for that drink when this is over.




UK Bob