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Elvin, I can only suggest you cancel your card. Also your card company might make a refund as you have been victin of fraud, but it might be a bit late for this. They look as if they will continue to charge you so this is the only way to stop them. I can't see that a fraudulent contract can be legally binding. I would not lose sleep over this, but if you want to make a nuisance of yourself, the following thread, might be of interest.

get your $$$ BACK!!!(music members)
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hi new to all this i signed up with realmusicnow.com paid them about €45 and got limewire was under the impression that this money was for the full version but is actually just the free version when I try to download or contact any links in their site i get virus alerts ..total scam. Paid for this about 3 weeks ago only got round to using limewire in last few days (kids did actually) so i reckon 2 late to do anything about it guess I will just have to pay for the limewire and put it down to experience
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Well, it is worth a try, to get the money back from your card company, or the site. Some have succeeded, but I DO suggest you cancel your credit card as the scammers have your details and can do what they like with them, unless the card is cancelled.

Deleting the Limewire you have, running a virus and spyware scan and downloading the proper one from www.limewire.com, might be wise as well

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Okay, I am big enough to admit when I have made a mistake. My husband went to www.ares.com and signed up for Limewire. A friend of ours sent him there. He went through the steps to sign up for limewire and when it told him you had to pay he said okay. Turns out they charged us 45.71. 17.88 - 1 year membership, 9.88 - protection program,. 14.95 - movie pass ( I thought was for pro upgrade). Anyway when I saw the thread that said limewire was always FREE i got the phone number on the charge from my bank and called them. Turns out they are a limewire assistance company. You pay all this money, they give you no way to contact them, and they are supose to help you understand how to use limewire. Hello. How dumb was I..So anyway I learned from my mistake. I asked for a refund and they said it was past 7 days but they refunded me the 9.88 and the 14.95.
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also, if anyone else went to www.ares.com the phone number to call them is 1-866-488-0790. I contacted them and they refunded me the 9.88 for program protection and 14.95 for some kind of movie pass.
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hi thanks for advice cancelled my credit card and they might even give me a refund!!! did delete all programs from this web site and downloaded the original limewire.
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Irishmary. Sit on them and I hope you get the refund.

jganaway. Just for information it seems ares.com is not doing the name of ares any favours. I believe the oficial site for Ares is http://aresgalaxy.sourceforge.net/
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Thank you to everyone for encouraging me to get my money back! I received a notice from the bank today that $46.65 was being credited back to my account. Honestly, I found the whole scam to be really discouraging and I would not have bothered to dispute the transaction because I felt to dang stupid for getting suckered in the first place.

I did not even realized I had been scammed until weeks after I made my "purchase." Truthfully, I had barely any recollection of which site I visited. I failed to keep any record of my transaction and no record of that day was left in my browser.

All I had was my bank record of the transaction: "DIRECTDEBIT/VISA-WP-DOWNLOAD SOCIETMONTREAL", (which is disturbingly vague and apparently refers to some "musical instrument store" in Quebec) and my sad, sad story to tell.

I went ahead and disputed the transaction anyway and won!

I would not have done it without the knowledge and encouragement I found in this forum. THANK YOU!!

I can't imagine that it is possible to have less information than I had about my Limewire "purchase." When I inquired at a few of these sights about "refunds." (Trying to figure out which one I had unwittingly joined.) I received aggressively threatening and hostile responses which implied that challenging my membership or taking the dispute to my bank would cost me more money. By then I realized that their threats were entirely empty (like their memberships)and I confirmed with the bank that disputing the charge would cost me nothing.

IF YOU REALIZED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED- IT'S NOT TOO LATE- MAKE THE MOVES TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK!
(and, more importantly, some self-respect).

I consider many valuable lessons well learned. Thank you all for your insight, experience, and wisdom.
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I reported my scammers to www.ifccfbi.gov. they investigate internet fraud in connection with the FBI. don't know if it will do any good, but it sure made me feel better!
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http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/Limew...-10376245.html
Free Limewire PRO Cram packed with Viruses and trojans. Watch out!
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you should be able to dispute the charge on your credit card. the card companys follow up and will not charge you.
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Just to let you know, I contacted the credit card company and today I notice they've credited my account with the money I lost. Nice one boys (Co-Operative Bank actually)
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Good one! Well done! Most banks/credit companies will generally come thru if you approach them in the right way & to the appropriate dept.
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I was taken in by one of these sites selling Limeware (a different colour skin was the only difference). As I already have Limewire Pro I wasn't best pleased. They have said I will get a refund, but I have asked my credit card company to stop the payment - too late I'm told but they will investigate. I paid £33.36, so fingers crossed I get the cash back.

I wonder has anyone noticed the Google ads at the top of each page in this forum - many of them are links to these scam web sites. How can this be allowed on the Limewire forum!!

I hope someone investigates this - they should be banned.

The site after I had registered is www.TheMusicsMembersArea.com
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Quote:
Originally posted by et voilà
->LimeWire's ONLY web site is http://www.limewire.com

->LW basic is free, never pay for it, except for Pro version from official web site (18.88US$ for 6 months support)

->You've been scammed? Try to get a refund ASAP!

Two ways:
1) ->ask and re-ask the scammers by email for a refund since they are providing a free product for a charge and that they are lying about 100% legal downloads (DON'T email people at limewire.com, this is their legit addresses, not the scammers addresses)

2) ->if you just "registered" their service, try to stop the money transfer by calling your bank and telling them you've been scammed


Fight back! ->please file a complaint to the FBI with the scammers web site address: http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp (www.limewire.com is NOT the scam website, link the one you registered onto)

It is true that GPL permits selling of software, HOWEVER
Those sites are illegal and fraudulous because:
-They do not give access to FrostWire source, as required by the GPL
-They lure new non-experimented users into thinking that a subscription gives them the right of legally downloading copyrighted works (Unlimited songs, movies, Legal) which is totally false, as other P2P activities, respect your country laws
-They don't tell what software users are getting (all 100% free software) and links to official websites
-They don't tell that the only thing they could charge, is the support over the usage of the softwares (a support often better on official web sites and forums)

How they work:
-Big scammers makes many websites to lure as many newbies as they can to pay (for exemple, mymusicinc.com, musicinc.cc and allcoolmusic.com have all the same owner), while softwares have only one official website.
-They pay Google many thousands of dollars for ads that are displayed accordingly to your search keywords or the subjects of a web page you visit.
-Once they get too many frustrated users on one site, the scammers close the site and reopen another one with a different address and different design.
-They make millions while legits software developers most often work for nothing.

Please spread the word and use this thread to share your experiences and exchange ideas about how to get a refund.

They do NOT deserve your money over OTHER's work. Do NOT encourage those parasites.

-et voilà
What about the sites that are doing this? I mean is there a place to report them at Limewire if this happens to us? They are breaking the law selling copyrighted materials aren't they?
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