Interesting. Point taken

I have been on to the company that make my Spyware program "Counterspy by Sunbelt Software" and I am pleased to say that they have addressed this issue and now exclude LimeWire Magnet handlers as being KaZaa or Grokster, and recognize them as genuine.

Dear All

I downloaded MS Spyware last night and used it for the very first time, taking care to get the latest updates before use.

At this point, I want to mention that I also use Adaware SE and Spybot, which I keep updated with their latest definitions, and always run before doing any online financial stuff.

Anyway, I ran MS Spyware and it found two diallers and some dodgy registry entries.

Now I can't say how long these pieces of crap has been on my machine, could have been months, days or hours, but I can now say that MS Spyware will now become an integral part of my PC protection.

Finally, I believe MS has now fixed the “Grokster” problem because I did not get it coming up in my spyware results, and I use LW Pro V4.4.1 running on Win XP SP1.




UK Bob

Hi there,

I also heard that LW was associated with Grokster. I installed the new Microsoft Spyware beta 1 but it didn't detect LW or Grokster. (So maybe UK Bob is right about it being fixed.)

I searched on google about the new spyware program and it came up with this.


Microsoft probes anti-spyware Trojan
Published: February 10, 2005, 12:11 PM PST
By Dan Ilett
Special to CNET News.com
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Microsoft is investigating a piece of malicious code that targets the recently released beta version of its AntiSpyware product.

On Wednesday, antivirus company Sophos reported a new Trojan horse, dubbed "Bankash-A," which suppresses warning messages displayed by Microsoft AntiSpyware and deletes all of the files in the program's folder. The Trojan also steals passwords and online-banking details from Windows users.

"Microsoft is actively investigating new public reports of a criminal attack, known as the 'Bankash-A Trojan'," the company wrote in an e-mail statement. "Microsoft is not aware of any significant customer impact resulting from the Trojan. Microsoft continues to recommend customers evaluate the Microsoft AntiSpyware beta and encourage customers to follow the three steps to help keep your PC protected (at) www.microsoft.com/protect."

The software giant is also offering free support to victims of the Trojan.Microsoft probes anti-spyware Trojan Microsoft probes anti-spyware Trojan

I don't have much knowledge about computers and this scared the **** out of me so I uninstalled it.

Something that does happen when I've been on LW (doesn't mean it's LW's fault) is that my anti-spyware programs finds SaHaGent. (ShopAtHomeSelect) Could this be cos I've downloaded a dodgy file??

Regards, Lindy

Dear Lindyloo

I can understand that you were scared by the new reported Trojan, "Bankash-A", but I fail to see why that would make you uninstall MS AntiSpyware.

You see, Trojans can only be caught by downloading something, like a dodgy file, getting it from an infected disk, an e-mail attachment, secret installation or a hacker placing it on your PC via an unprotected open port.

What you have done is like a man throwing away his bullet proof vest because someone has invented a bullet that can pierce it, so making himself vulnerable to anyone else with any other type of bullet.

Besides, if you keep your anti-virus software up to date, and run it over any files you download, then that should be able to get rid of this Trojan before it can do any damage.

Keep your PC protection and keep them up to date.





UK Bob

Hi Bob,

Thankyou very much for your reply.

As I said I don't know much about computers and the way Spyware etc and Trojans work. I guess I knew really that Trojans came in stuff you downloaded but I just panicked, (just went and got my vest outta the bin also hee hee)

While I'm here could you tell me where best to get Java runtime environment from. I know this is a daft question but I've just been reading another thread about naughty B*****d hoax Limewire sites. (I know these ppl were conning others out of money but I'm scared incase I go to the wrong place (if that's possible)

Thanks again Uk Bob

Dear Lindyloo

You can download the latest Java Runtime Environment from the Sun website, no need to worry about being ripped off because it is FREE.

Here's the URL:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp




UK Bob

i noe this is off topic but i got a question how do u clear search history in limewire?

Thanks Bob,

Lindy

Sorry infamouzballa41st. I haven't a clue

Hi UK Bob,

Just had a thought about the Trojan "Bankash-A". The Trojan cleaner I have doesn't have it listed in the data base, so it wouldn't be able to detect it. I run AVG free edition and the last time I ran it over something before installing, it said no viruses found. Then when I tried to install, it found a Trojan.

What do you think?? I know you can only get Trojans if you download something, but if this Trojan is targeting MS Spyware thingy then would it not be best to leave it until the find a fix

Yours, (who hasn't a clue but can waffle a lot), Lindy x

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Dear Lindyloo

I don't know about AVG but if it is anything like Norton Anti-Virus it must be updated regularly, so it may not have this Trojan in its database now but it soon will. As long as you keep your virus/Trojan definitions/database up to date you have very little, if anything, to worry about.

If you want extra safety then use Prevx Home V2.0 as well, this is an anti-secret installation software that stop things creeping into your PC and installing themselves. It is FREE and available from here:

http://www.prevx.com/prevxhome.asp

Lindy, there is something you must understand about protection software and that is every popular protection application is a target. The aim is to disable your computer's protection and then steal information from your PC, such as your banking or credit card details. However, throwing away your protection does not make you safe, like the man who threw away his bullet proof vest, it only makes you more vulnerable.

And also, please remember, a Trojan, virus or spyware does not seek out a protected PCs, they find careless owners and vulnerable PCs.

Here is something that recently happened to me:

A few months ago my teenage son downloaded something onto my PC, what it was he wont say (he his now banned). Whatever it was it targeted both my Norton AntiVirus and Firewall, it rendered both of them useless and locked me out of their controls

It took me the entire day, from 9am to about 7pm, to get my anti-virus and firewall working again, and back in my control.

Now, I realise that because of my son's download, which had this hidden crap in it, some of my protection apps were hit (and hit hard) but I and my PC were not deliberately targeted it was just a trap that was set for the unwary, and my son fell into it.

However, that will not stop me from putting the protection back in place because it is there to protect my privacy and, to an extent, my family's way of life.

One other thing, remember the Sasser worm, nearly all the unprotected PCs in the western world were hit, I know of friends, friends of friends, and relatives that fell victim to this worm. However, while this worm was crawling into PCs all over the world I did not even get a sniff of it. Because I had my firewall in place, which makes my PC invisible to the internet, and my anti-virus, which eliminates anything that comes in via e-mail or embedded in a web page.

I consider that my entire arsenal of protection software, anti-virus, anti-spyware, intrusion prevention, firewall, port checker, etc., is there for my benefit and I will not uninstall them just because some miscreant may have targeted one or two of them.




UK Bob

PS. Hope my reply has not been too long.

Hi UK Bob,

Your reply was definitely not too long.

I really appreciate the time you took to write what you did.
As I've said B4 I'm not too clever when it comes to computers but I do enjoy learning. My main worry is my Boyfriend, who knows even less than me and may download & install something infected. I did get some information about Spyware etc and the effects it can have on computers and he did seem to take a little notice. I think I know a lot more about this kind of stuff than I dd a year ago (or even since B4 Christmas when my Brother put WinXP in for me).

I guess I'll just have to go back and take administrative rights away from my B/F (he probably won't notice.....lol.....)

As I said, I really do appreciate the time you have take to reply.

Regards, Lindy xx

All I know is, I just ran noadware, and it totally nuked Limewire.

I believe there *is* in fact spyware in there somewhere, why else would noadware catch it?

Do you guys mean no spyware in the free version, or do I have to buy it to get no adware?

Can you be more specific .

What version of Limewire was "totally nuked" and btw what do you mean by that ?
What spyware was found ?

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Almost on topic is a statement by an antispy softw programmer: http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/art...ontentid=32206 That only two antispy softw's are reliable AND can be fully trusted!

In another article I read noadware has only recently had spyware taken out of it.

The Good, The Bad & The Ugly!

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