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Old November 12th, 2005
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Hey guys, I am in Oz and have an cable internet connection with which is an unlimited usage contract, the other day I recived an email from my IP saying I have reached 8gb and they will throttle my connection at 10gb, the thing is I know Ive been downloading a few things especially avi files but no more than I thought from previous months, so I rang them and they said that if people upload from me that can effect my usage, I have noticed that alot of people upload from me all the time (10-15 at one time) should I stop sharing for now? as its only the beginning of the month and I just checked my usage meter and its now on 9573.91mb.

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You are not the only one that ISPs have arbitrarily redefined what certain words mean, this happens world wide not just is OZ.

For example:

Unlimited - means limited to what we tell you you can do.

24/7 - usually means 150 hours a month.


So, you have a couple of choices to make:

1) You can get yourself another ISP, I don't know what the ISP situation is like in OZ but here in London we have new telecoms/ISPs always popping up and competing on price a broadband speed.

2) Throttle back on your usage of the P2P network, as told to do by your ISP. Bearing in mind that after saying that you had unlimited usage you are now being rationed without any reduction in your monthly subscription.

I certainly know which choice I would make.



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Hey bobby, I cant get out of my 2yr contract, and you are right in saying that they failed to mention that unlimited had limits but telstra in oz sucks, its going to come down to getting a lawyer to check your simple contracts, phone, net , pay tv, its getting crazy, Im on LW at the moment, downloading about 6 avi files, it was running at 200kb plus but I just checked its now running at 2 and 3kb lol I dont care if it takes 3 days their not going to stop me doing what I enjoy after all I pay top dollar for their crap lol

Ill probably catch you all next month lol
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I don't have cable. I use broadband (bottom level lol ) but I do get unlimited downlds. If I choose dsl 2 the new hi-speed here, then it's all capped downlds which simply wouldn't suit me (eg: 8 or 16 GB/mth.) Even though the speeds are 10 + times faster, I already downld more than the downld limits for dsl offer before I'd be throttled down. Unless I get a business price service which is still limited. (My speed is 256 kbps)

I'd have to say, 8 GB is extremely small for cable or any high speed service. I at least double that/mth. I guess I'd query is that up/down combined or just downld? And is off-peak counted? Some services don't include some things in the total. Such as off-peak, or downlds from certain accepted sites for softw & videos, etc.
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I just got off the phone to them, I told them their **** because they dont tell you this in their fancy freakin adds, he tried to pass the buck off to billing and suggested I have a good spyware program.They have informed me that I have been shaped to 64kpbs which is dial up speed and Im only 12 days into the month, Ive checked LW, Ive lost one of my ultrapeers and now lost my hosts that I was downloading off. Oh well LW cold turkey for the rest of the month lol

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LOTR to answer you, thats up and download, do you think all the uploading makes a big difference?
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I can't remember Telstra's policy on uploading but it might yes. In future you may need to cut back on Uploads (speed) to make it fairer on yourself. Perhaps limit slots also. I do, but I only have a very slow upld capacity. So I need a little to browse at the same time. lol
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Are you in Oz as well ?
I had my slots set at 20, Ive cut that to 10 now and is the bandwidth the slide meter, if it is its all the way up and where should I set that?

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That depends upon what your upload capacity is. I'm from the garden state
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Well there you go, Me the sunshine state but originally NSW (go the blues). I dont know my capacity how do you tell that?
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You can do speed tests. Careful because some quote the speeds in bps as in bits per second, whereas LW quotes speeds in bytes per second (8 bits = 1 byte.) 1. http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest
2. http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp
3. http://www.t1shopper.com/tools/speedtest/ (Find one for Australia in the list.)
4. http://www.pcpitstop.com/internet/default.asp

But you should do these tests whilst not using LW, otherwise it will interfere (LW's aleasy using some of your bandwidth.)
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
640 K [of computer memory] ought be enough for anybody. -- Bill Gates (1981)
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. -- Albert Einstein
When facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -- Albert Einstein
Religion keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -- Napoleon Bonaparte
The important thing is not to stop questioning. -- Albert Einstein
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
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