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"You will find all of the latest tools for accessing the largest peer-to-peer networks on the planet. You will also find online tutorials making it easy for you install and learn the tools provided, a collection of tools that include video players (allow you to play the latest video files) access to an award winning support team, CD burning application and much, much more…"

"If you are experiencing technical difficulties and would require support, our support team guarantees to solve your issue on first contact or your money back! Simply contact us by email, by phone or through live web-chat function located in the member’s area."

" We have 3 teams offering support around the clock and 7 days a week."

Don't be a dick and think 99.9% of the world is on your side. It's not a scam. Damn. Everyone thinks any marketing attempt is a scam.

The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

K?

That's what some people like. They're clear and state that straight on their website. It's a SERVICE. People who buy it WANT that service. There's a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE in case it's NOT what they're looking for.

That's ethical, so get off your scam-ridden horse. If you call that a scam, then I guess you call any support/information product a scam, eh?

Such as technical support for computer companies. How dare they fill a need in the marketplace.
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By the way - those are sponsored results and clearly marked as such. For information about LIMEWIRE itself, the FIRST result for Google is Limewire.Com.

My original point is Google makes a pretty damn successful attempt at providing relevant, unbiased results, and I wish Limewire would do the same.
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Confidence trick
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A confidence trick, confidence game, also known as a con or scam, is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the "mark") usually with the goal of financial or other gain.

The confidence trickster, con man, scam artist or con artist often works with one or more accomplices called shills, who try to encourage the mark by pretending to believe the trickster. In a traditional con, the mark is encouraged to believe that they will obtain money dishonestly by cheating a third party, and is stunned to find that due to what appears to be an error in pulling off the scam they are the one who loses money; in more general use, the term con is used for any fraud in which the victim is tricked into losing money by false promises of gain.

Most confidence tricks exploit the greed and dishonesty of their victims. Often, the mark tries to out-cheat the conmen, only to discover that they have been manipulated into this from the start. This is such a general principle in confidence tricks that there is a saying among conmen that "you can't cheat an honest man."

Sometimes conmen rely on naïve individuals who put their confidence in get-rich-quick schemes such as 'too good to be true' investments. It may take years for the wider community to discover that such 'investment' schemes are bogus, and usually it is too late as many people have lost their life savings in something they have been confident of investing in.

You mean to tell me that advertisement isn't deceptive and misleading. I am guessing you make a living ripping people off how can you justify that. And if you think people want that service maybe you should check out some of the threads in the link below it is the search results for the word scam in this forum. Perhaps you should pull you head out of you *** and realize that people do not like to be riped off by people who do not want to work for a living but would rather steal it from people that do.

And maybe while you are at it you could maybe beat it through that thick scull of yours that LimeWire Does Not Control The Gnutella Network It Is Only A App That Takes You There
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Ohhhhhhh God, so I'm using the wrong name. I read about two sentences of your post because you're just an *****retentive nit-picky *******. No offense :P

The point is my point - not who's running it. So, the whatever network should "get on that" or so I could only hope.
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So use a diffrent net
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Stop being a douchebag. I'm complaining because I notice it. I have a right to voice it. What's your point? To be a nitpicky ***?
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Hahaha okay so I finished reading your con man post.

Funny ****.

I won't even argue how dumb that is, but let me apply it to the situation instead - something you neglected to do.

That definition is way off to describing what's going on here. There's no promises of "FALSE GAIN" in any part of this.

No one is getting scammed.

I agree I wouldn't want the service, and they advertise the BENEFIT of what their buyers will receive and not their service. That's shady advertising, no doubt.

I'm not blind to that. But it's not a damn scam. And anyone who thinks so should read the ****ing FAQ they have on their site.

Ultimately these people get what they want - with the SERVICE of how to search for mp3's correctly - or they get their money back. Ever heard of buyer beware? Do your research before you buy, *******. I'm not going to sympathize for those who can't when it's clearly written, WITH a money back guarantee.
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Perhaps you should have read the first line

A confidence trick, confidence game, also known as a con or scam, is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the "mark") usually with the goal of financial or other gain.

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P2P can also stand for Pay-to-play in gaming.

A peer-to-peer (or P2P) computer network is a network that relies on the computing power and bandwidth of the participants in the network rather than concentrating it in a relatively low number of servers. P2P networks are typically used for connecting nodes via largely ad hoc connections. Such networks are useful for many purposes. Sharing content files (see file sharing) containing audio, video, data or anything in digital format is very common, and realtime data, such as telephony traffic, is also passed using P2P technology.

A pure peer-to-peer network does not have the notion of clients or servers, but only equal peer nodes that simultaneously function as both "clients" and "servers" to the other nodes on the network. This model of network arrangement differs from the client-server model where communication is usually to and from a central server. A typical example for a non peer-to-peer file transfer is an FTP server where the client and server programs are quite distinct, and the clients initiate the download/uploads and the servers react to and satisfy these requests.

Some networks and channels, such as Napster, OpenNAP, or IRC @find, use a client-server structure for some tasks (e.g., searching) and a peer-to-peer structure for others. Networks such as Gnutella or Freenet use a peer-to-peer structure for all purposes, and are sometimes referred to as true peer-to-peer networks, although Gnutella is greatly facilitated by directory servers that inform peers of the network addresses of other peers.

Peer-to-peer architecture embodies one of the key technical concepts of the internet, described in the first internet Request for Comments, "RFC 1, Host Software" [1] dated 7 April 1969. More recently, the concept has achieved recognition in the general public in the context of the absence of central indexing servers in architectures used for exchanging multimedia files.

The concept of peer to peer is increasingly evolving to an expanded usage as the relational dynamic active in distributed networks, i.e. not just computer to computer, but human to human. Yochai Benkler has developed the notion of commons-based peer production to denote collaborative projects such as free software. Associated with peer production are the concept of peer governance (referring to the manner in which peer production projects are managed) and peer property (referring to the new type of licenses which recognize individual authorship but not exclusive property rights, such as the General Public License and the Creative Commons. The emergence of P2P as a relational dynamic and institutional form is monitored by the Foundation for P2P Alternatives [2]
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It's still run by someone who could make an effort to make it better. They're a company right? They want more satisfied users right? Okay then - so don't hide behind definitions, make some ******* innovation.
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I guess you don't understand it is not run by anybody it is simply people connecting to other people nobody has any control over what is shared.Nobody
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Give me a break. I'm making a point - if you won't take the time to read it, you can politely stay out.

"I just wish CHrisavalon would shut the **** up"

As you make a point about niceness. At least you're being hypocritical. That's always good. Maybe you should go to a bar, and get laid out flat, too. Yay.

BUT anyways - to your point - there are **** results for Limewire and Google - okay. My beef with it was that there were these crap "sponsored results" coming up INSTEAD of real results - my REASON for bringing GOOGLE up is that google has systems in place to get RID of the crap and Limewire doesn't. Yet. There's absolutely nothing to make results unbiased results, and there should be.

It should give the best results possible.

Fair enough? Cut all the other bs. That's not even the point.
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NOBODY!

Good thing no one's making any money off it then... Good damn thing... yeah yeah... k I understand now. It's a total FREEWARE place... all the money spent there goes to charity for homeless people... k.. I get it.
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You're lost, my friend. :P

Anyways - I totally don't care about any of this, nor seemingly do you. So I hope you didn't take it personal. Haha. I'm finished with the issue. Unless you feel obliged to argue more. Feel free.
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Nothing like a good discussion. Have a good night or day whichever part of the world you are in.
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