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Old August 25th, 2006
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Why the heck do you download such crap? If you really need DOS there's a free and legal alternative:
http://www.freedos.org/

I'm surprised that people download executables from Gnutella. Did you visit the official site first to get a signature or checksum at least? If not, do you really think a software is safe if your virus scanner reports nothing? There's certainly no 100% safety or security but if you don't even try, you get none and deserve none. The problem though is, it's not just you, who's going to suffer but potentially millions of people who are going to receive spam (******, IM, Gnutella etc.) from your machine.

Edit: Oh, wow, you censor the short form of "electronic mail".
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I don't often agree with you but I certainly do on this one, people who download exe files from the P2P network without having the common sense to protect their PCs deserve what they get. And even if they had an AV, as you said, there is no such thing as 100% protection.

The biggest and best protection anyone can use on there PC is "Common Sense" but if users refuse to use it then it is the rest of us on the network that will ultimately suffers.


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I ty to do everything in my power to stay clean through virus scanning and sometimes knowing the file size before I download, especially .exe extensions. When I really doubt the validity of a program I really need, I have a second computer which I use to first install and test programs, once they pass they come into my computer. Most people can't do this, or think it takes too long, but after being hit several times in my life with some killer viruses, or virii, whatever... I learned to be more patient. That is why I need to have this function put in place, so that I can weed out file sizes I KNOW i dont need, and so if Im looking for a small file size, I can open the filter back up and search all files.... I dont think it's such a bad idea, I think it wouldnt take much code writing since they could prety much copy and paste some portion of the search features changing only to output file sizes greater than =x or only files lower than =y or none and then cram it in the next beta...
C'mon, if I paid for this program I would like my opinions really considered, or for someone to shut me up by really explaining why it is so difficult if not impossible to incorporate such feature in Limewire...
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I gave my reasons why it will never be done. You CANNOT filter by size if its a generated trojan. The trojans/junk files are GENERATED because of WHAT YOU typed in the search. Dont you get it? You cant block it by size filter because ITS GENERATED and will keep spawning each time a keyword is typed up. I trhink its funny you whining about size filters in Limewire just so you can steal something without getting a virus. You steal software, you run the risk of getting a virus, no matter what the size of the file is.
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You can't disagree about what I said, becuase I didn't give an opinion... I said a truth

When you first search you see it organised as you set before (name, result#)
Im not a programmer but Ive been on Gnutella long enough to know that YOU CANNOT nor a programmer CANNOT filterout a GENERATED trojan by size because it will just spawn into a larger file. No one gets it. The files are small because nothing blocks it. Keywords typed in the search generates the trojan/junk so its at the top of your list along with other trojans/viruses right? So, if someone invents a SIZE FILTER what do you think will happen? They will generate into bigger files over 5megs and then what? You still will need yet another filter by size etc. Its like a catch 22.
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First of all, Im not whining, im voicing my opinion, and I'm glad you're trying to put it down, it just makes my day... second, I would still like to see a size filter anyways so i can only look for a given file when I know the aproximate filesize, third, what kind of things do you look for with limewire? Im sure you cant say without lying you've never donloaded anything which you weren't suppossed to, so don't come in here acting noble , because you're not fooling anyone but yourself.
If you want to assume i "steal" software, then, hey, you're just going to have to figure that sh!t out on your own, I won't lose any sleep over it.
Another thing, since these tojans get generated and become whatever they want, how come they don't spawn into bigger full programs? I mean, whoever makes these codes should know that most people will not download, let's say windows xp, for the sake of argument, if it shows 87kb instead of 5 or 600mb, right? why dont they just make them spawn into a 500mb file so people do download it more often?? I mean, isnt the whole virus idea to make people's computers go nuts, break down or other malicious acts? wouldn't the coder want as many people as possible to get infected? so why not go that route from the get go??
If the size filter is on the user side, it wouldnt interact with anything outside the program, the filter only does exactly that, filters out incoming info and does not show it, pretty simple I think. It wouldnt be a cure because nothing ever is, someone will always figure out a way to bend or break the rules, all im worried about is being able to find files of the sizes I know, say I want a codec pack thats 1.2mb I do not want to see anything less than 1 meg, i set the filter to only show 1 meg and up, tell me how on earth any tojan out there could know I have a filter set on above 1 meg when the filter is passive on my side, Limewire wouldnt be sending out nothing but the keywords I am looking for and hence the miserable "generated" tojans would go nuts sending out hits but I would never se them.

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Looking up "catch 22" I came across this:
"A situation in which a desired outcome or solution is impossible to attain because of a set of inherently illogical rules or conditions:...blah blah" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Catch-22
Yes, as you put it, it would be impossible due to the rules and conditions set by yourself since you are assuming the host receives your keyword along with a file size request.
But since no request is made other than a keyword, it would be impossible to know what file sizes the client is filtering on their end.
So the thought that a trojan would generate upon receiving a keyword request would be inherently illogical.
please correct me if Im wrong.
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You are right about that, however the spammers would soon catch on and flood the network even more in all sizes

By itself it wouldn't work for long, but in conjunction with a IP filter or maybe even a hashfilter (AaronWalkhouse is trying to get the programmers to implement these options in the next major version) it would in my oppinion work great

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Ok... If we place an ip filter would it work against dynamic ip's, or ip changing software? and a hashfilter along with a size filter? we need to do something about this. Even if spam gets bigger, who will want their computers uploading huge files constantly? I think a passive size filter on the user end would help. A hash verification process would be even better as you said along with a size filter on the user end would probably be the best way to go, Bitzi has done an awsome job at identifying files by bitprints, why not use bitzi then to filter out of the network alltoghether files with prints that have negative comments, or are confirmed corrupt, a virus, etc....?? let's say after receiving 6 negative comments, a file gets banned... or reviewed and banned...
I think it is worth a try, maybe they should just do it and see what happens.
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An IP Filter won't work as well on dynamic IP's as static IP's, but it will help as dynamic IP's are usually rotated (there may be some casualties, but they can always get static).

The hashfilter will only work on known bad files, but still a large improvement. It will make the spammers and MAFIAA have to work even harder to mess up Limewire (Far to easy as it is right now)

The filesize filter will make them have to make larger bad files which in turn will need longer to download taking up their bandwidth and slots

All three together would give them a real headache
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I wouldn't put it above them. I can assure you they can afford it. They bring in millions of dollars via the music business. Many of those dollars that the artists should but aren't receiving in the 1st place. So what a pack of hypocrites heh!!!
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I hope they really take a look into this....
Ok, nothing to do with anything.... I just had to look up Faroe Islands on the web (never heard of them before).... It's a beautiful place from the pictures i seen... do you know of a website where i can see more, or better pics? I only saw a few....
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Can't think of one right now

Google is probably your best shot. Try typing .fo into domain

Here is one with lots of pictures (don't know about the quality though)

LOL forgot to post the link

http://heima.olivant.fo/~anfinn/
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I wouldn't put it above them. I can assure you they can afford it....
Ok, but isn't true that a great % of these are also un/suspecting users? Im sure the ones that know they are seeding these files would get tired of seeing their computers become bandwidth hogs, and the ones that don't know would figure it out quickly since these files would take a while to upload... correct me if I'm wrong, but that would probably take care of a large amount of seeders, then the problem would lie almost solely on spammers and ****oles.
I mean they might as well keep their file sizes to a minimum because if they cram up p2p networks with massive amounts of data, it would probably mean the end of p2p as we know it, then they would be losing too....


Sleepless.......
WOW!!! what a cool place, I'm a sights freak for lack of a better desciption, and this place really blows my mind...
I've been around quite a few countries, and seen spectacular sights, reminds me of my travels to the south of Argentina... . I've also seen grass on the roof in Villa Gesell Argentina, and now I've seen it again....this place really caught my attention, I think I will add it to my "places to go before I croak" list

Sorry, I will not stray from the subject anymore...
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