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SinnerG February 16th, 2010 10:30 AM

I started working on a (currently) closed-source GnucCOM (the 'gnucdna' that came with gnucleus) specificly targeted for Windows 7 called SharpWire.

The biggest issue I had is that the latest gnuccom is GPL and I'm usign MS-PL code (incompatible) so I had to use a loophole: webservices.

When you 'connect', the client(MS-PL) launches a seperate service application (that is GPL and sources will be available) and communicates to it using webservices tech.

This ofc makes it a bit more difficult to do things, but things go well so far. :)

All is coded in C#.

Old look:

New current look:

What do you guys think so far?

File_Girl71 February 16th, 2010 08:14 PM

Why not use the LGPL for your closed source project SharpWire? Morpheus did, and that is a closed source with GnucDNA LGPL is the same as lesser general public license.Most closed source use that license LGPL or should use that! You can read more about LGPL license here:

SinnerG February 17th, 2010 07:04 AM

Well, reason is that I'm using MS-PL licensed code (for the Ribbon) and MS-PL requires that IF you ever release the code it MUST be under MS-PL.

I might be miss-interpreting this though, so that it might only apply to the ribbon - any ideas?

Once I got something decent done I will post the url to the gpl code here & at the blog.

File_Girl71 February 17th, 2010 03:24 PM

Well you still can use LGPL license for the main application because of the GnucDNA you use...For the Ribbon you can use the MS-PL license like you say.You see, you must avoid breaking GPL/LGPL for your project.When the GnucDNA is used, it will recuier use off GPL OR LGPL license as the main license!But like the Morpheus with the GnucDNA are licensed as LGPL and the BitTorrent support is MIT licensed...You could do somthing like that with your SharpWire project!I must admitt it sounds like a good project, and it's cool you wanna use the GnucDNA as core for SharpWire!Gnucleus and Morpheus start getting old and tired, so we need new one that are more up to date so to speak.I would love to test it, since i use Windows 7 now! :-)

SinnerG February 17th, 2010 09:10 PM

Well I am keeping in mind of the GPL license. I can use it without releasing my code.

Reason is for the famous gpl webservice loophole (google it, reason they invented AGPL)

My project is split up in 2 parts : MS-PL licensed (closed source..) / GPL licensed code.

The GPL code is a windows service hosting the GnucCOM object, communication with this service is done purely using webservices (more precise : WCF) so no 'dynamic' linking is done!

I will release the service under GPL with full source access. People could use it as a base to make their own clients if they wanted using the same core :)

Btw : where did my main post go ? :s

Just go to if you want more info, and you can follow twitter if you want to be there once I release more GPLed code

SinnerG February 17th, 2010 09:16 PM

Where are my posts going to :s

2nd time my post disappears :'(

Well since all I typed is lost AGAIN .. for more info visit the dev blog @ or the dev twitter (will show release of gpl code) @

SinnerG February 17th, 2010 09:19 PM

Since all my posts are being deleted for some reason: for the dev twitter (will show gpl releases) and for the dev blog (lots of info on here!)

Lord of the Rings February 17th, 2010 09:27 PM

Your posts are not being deleted, they are held in a moderation queue due to some keywords that have been included in your posts.

SinnerG February 17th, 2010 09:51 PM

Ow my bad, thanks for the heads up lotr :s

SinnerG February 19th, 2010 01:27 PM

I'm considering on releasing all code (that is not GPL) under MS-PL but I wonder if anyone would be interested in this ;p

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