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Talking *Shareaza beats all the other Gnutella software into a bloody mess.

Minor upgrade 1.0.2 is now available. This upgrade
incorporates many of the features and fixes requested over the past 48 hours since the
initial release. Limit searches to certain file types, faster uploads, better QRP compatibility,
auto-connect, more intuitive results display. Yes it has it all.
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And how does it affect the network to get this "beats all the other Gnutella software" status?
Any chance it trashes the network for everyone else?
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And how does it affect the network to get this "beats all the other Gnutella software" status?
Any chance it trashes the network for everyone else?
Listen UP Mr 64.24.x.x.x

You are really going to have to stop trolling round to spread your negativity... Next time I see an empty post from you equal to this one, zap
Got it?
You are either going to stop with your constant and meaningless negativity or you are going to see your posts disappear real fast.
Got it?
As said before, you have NOT evaluated this client and many people here are sick and tired of your garbage posts which contribute nothing to these forums.
I did say 'please' to you to stop your foolishness. You get only one of those. From this post on, if you choose to continue with nothing but attacks and diatribes, you will be deleted.
Up to you.
These forums MUST be able to support open discussion about all Gnutella clients.......
This does not include your 'arrogant stupidities and childish ego displays'.

The comments made by the OTHER unregistered poster are with merit. It, Shareaza, is, as far as anyone can determine to date, a really wonderful piece of work.

Now, if you do not have a client of your own making to share with all of us, shut up.

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Listen UP Mr 64.24.x.x.x

You are really going to have to stop trolling round to spread your negativity... Next time I see an empty post from you equal to this one, zap
Got it?
You are either going to stop with your constant and meaningless negativity or you are going to see your posts disappear real fast.
Got it?
As said before, you have NOT evaluated this client and many people here are sick and tired of your garbage posts which contribute nothing to these forums.
I did say 'please' to you to stop your foolishness. You get only one of those. From this post on, if you choose to continue with nothing but attacks and diatribes, you will be deleted.
Up to you.
These forums MUST be able to support open discussion about all Gnutella clients.......
This does not include your 'arrogant stupidities and childish ego displays'.

The comments made by the OTHER unregistered poster are with merit. It, Shareaza, is, as far as anyone can determine to date, a really wonderful piece of work.

Now, if you do not have a client of your own making to share with all of us, shut up.
Those seem to be legitimate questions and I don't here any negativity coming from it. While this unregistered user has been a pain in the a** sometimes, it seems you are starting a personal little war against him. Perhaps you should let another mod step in.
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Any chance it trashes the network for everyone else?
Did you investigated anything like this? If so please post your results that others can confirm them...

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Those seem to be legitimate questions and I don't here any negativity coming from it. While this unregistered user has been a pain in the a** sometimes, it seems you are starting a personal little war against him. Perhaps you should let another mod step in.
OK, point taken from you.
I would say that I see all of the posts from this individual in the normal course of doing the mods job, and there is a 100% consistency of negativity and innuendo and simple unfounded attacks included in all of his posts.
It has been suggested that this particular unregistered poster may possess some knowledge in regards these subjects discussed here...... If this is so, than I would hope to see the fruits of his knowledge made available to some here who may benefit. I wish to see the fruits of his automatic negative reactions limited. They are harmful to the well-being of the majority of Gnutella network client users and to those who genuinely seek assistance or a sounding-board within these forums.
I very much support his potential as a possible "devil's advocate" here, but, with polite behaviour and far more than a routine, "You are an idiot and do not know what you are talking about..." attitude... He has already tried to pull this off with people who are well established within the Gnutella community, and failed...... I think it is important that he stop this behaviour with everyone here.
A troll is a troll, no matter what level of technical prowess the troll may possess. Trolling is trolling.

It would be very nice to see him become a part of the 'solution' around here, hmmm?
It is not difficult to do this..... All you need to do is have the memory and integrity to admit that only a short while ago you knew nothing.... and, in the future, you will always be a newbie with something.... Everything, actually
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And how does it affect the network to get this "beats all the other Gnutella software" status?
Swarm downloads, Ultrapeer and query routing technology use intelligent connections to save your bandwidth.

Detailed diagnostic and monitoring capabilities including smart packet dumping, search monitoring and filtered hit monitoring enable you to keep an eye on the network.

Fully featured and infinitely configurable performance graphing visualises key indicators such as bandwidth utilisation, neighbour interactions, downloads, uploads and network characteristics over time.

Support for the latest Gnutella protocol enhancements such as v0.6 handshaking, Ultrapeer/Supernode, QRP, BYE, pong caching, flow control, EQHD, HUGE, HTTP/1.1, chat and XML metadata ensure you're PC is a good citizen on the network.
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And how does it affect the network to get this "beats all the other Gnutella software" status?
Any chance it trashes the network for everyone else?
It allows you to connect to hundreds of ultrapeers at a time (whatever your bandwidth will allow), set your TTL, expire time, and any other option to whatever you want it to, no matter if it has the potential of hurting the network or not, and one of it's "features" allows Shareaza users to "hide" by changing the user agent field (so it will look like they are actually using Limewire, Bearshare, Gnucleus, or whatever), and it allows you to hammer other users for files.

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Shareaza puts advanced users in complete control of its operation, with an extensive array of operating parameters.

Virtually all aspects of the software can be configured. If it's running on your PC, you should have control.

In addition to the usual set of options, network control registers allow knowledgable users to tweak performance outside normal operating conditions.
Sounds like another QTrax2 to me, with the possibility to be much worse.

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Sounds like another QTrax2 to me, with the possibility to be much worse.
My point exactly.
Someone with a personal grudge against me seems to not want this pointed out.

Makes sense since the other clients like Gnuc, LW and BS have all those "cool" features like ultrapeers and such. So any client that gets way better results should be questioned as to how it does it.
I am just asking questions, how can this "new" client get you better results than any of the leading existing well developed, researched and well behaved clients?
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Default Proof

I just posted the proof. I'm not saying the default settings will harm the network, but this client is aimed towards advanced users, it seems. Many of these people will be tweaking the settings to their advantage, in turn hurting the network. Have you ever seen a Qtrax2 user hammer you for files once per second? Even while they're already downloading the file from you? I never downloaded Qtrax (I did download Shareaza and give it a spin), but I don't think those are it's default settings, either. But the fact is, alot of people who will be downloading this will set it up so that it best benefits them, without regard for the rest of the network, as we've already seen with Qtrax. And I believe this client has the ability to be even worse than Qtrax on the network (more options for the tweaking, and no limits to what they can set them to).
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