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... iTunes isd only 99 cents. Not bad for great quaility. i will probably just stay with iTunes. Never found a better one yet.
Great quality? Pfft! Great quality is FLAC which is identical to CD quality, not in a commercial format that throws away information to help reduce it in size to 1/6 or 1/7 of original uncompressed size.

A VM member of these forums gave me a variation of the authentic Shareaza she adapted slightly. It connected easily, found files easily, downloaded easily.

Not all pc's are the same, even if you own several pc's, one p2p program can behave totally differently on one of them compared to the others even when the pc's are identical hardware & software. That's a fact of life. So choose what suits your system best. If you're happy with a spyware full program that reports all your shared files, other details about your system reported back to Discordia, then that's your happy choice. (I'm sure if the code was investigated many references to reporting back to Discordia would be found. I've seen this before.)

Glad it works for you. But as both a moderator & admin here when someone who uses a SCAM version of a program posts here, appearing innocent initially then gives the 'go' pro thoughts about the scam version, then yes I was suspicious, thus my comments. As far as a moderator's suspicion can go, you may well work for Discordia, perhaps even a marketer for them. It appears you did not come to these forums for help, but to boost Discordia's reputation, pretending Discordia's (spyware) version is superior.

We do not support scam versions of any program here at Gnutella forums. That's always been the policy here. Whilst we might give advice to help solve problems, we'd also suggest getting the real thing.

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iTunes have changed. It now has DRM free music.
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iTunes may have some DRM free music, but unfortunately still in crap quality. 224Kbps m4a unless I'm very much mistaken. That doesn't even come close to great quality.

Try comparing one of those releases to the same one on a physical CD in a proper audio setup, and I'm sure you'll find a difference.

I remember when they posted blind tests of DRM music vs. "higher" quality DRM free music and I could hear the difference. Unfortunately I could also very easily hear the difference between their DRM free music and an actual 100% copy of the songs.
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Yes that is true. Apple decided against DRM, hoping other online music companies would follow suit. But online iTunes music quality is still much lower than can be obtained from CD.

Have you listened to very loud music through a single wall? The wall filters out several of the frequencies & quality. Music sold online is roughly basically the same. m4a/mp3, etc. drops all frequencies above 15KHz & below 10 hz. Changes the actual structure of the music by adjoining similar frequencies, dropping some frequencies & boosting others, changing the music shape; this can be seen when comparing original with mp3/m4a audio bandwidth frequencies on a spectrograph.

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No way is it crappy quality. Some of the junk I downloaded on those crappy P2P software downloads , i would not even have. Some was not even by the real artists. Quality was terrible. iTunes sounds like a symphony compared to that crap.
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That's fine, sounds like p2p sharing is not for you. Of course selecting the better quality audio files is something you are not educated at. 99c/song ... that's a bargain. Though personally I'd prefer to have the CD at that price. Fine if you only want one song off a particular album. But as you suggested, you think p2p software downloads are crap. So it's obviously not for you. Not sure why you're even bothering with your scam version Shareaza since it connects to the same networks.

You rubbish the genuine ShareAza, you rubbish Gnutella, you rubbish the networks Shareaza connects to, you rubbished me. Anything else you wish to say?

And we thought you came to these forums looking for help initially. We were fooled.
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No way is it crappy quality. Some of the junk I downloaded on those crappy P2P software downloads , i would not even have. Some was not even by the real artists. Quality was terrible. iTunes sounds like a symphony compared to that crap.
You are funny. I guess you don't know how to use P2P at all. If you go after low quality rips done with WMP or iTunes (the program) and the likes, of course a bought iTunes rip will sound like a symphony compared to it. But that does not make iTunes quality great quality.

Do you even own a physical CD and decent equipment to play it on?
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it is crappy in an audiophile's eyes (make that ears)...

yep, a lot of stuff on the gnutella network is cr@p ...and a lot is spam...but there are quality files at a high bitrate to be found...and take the time to remember a very simple concept...its for free (unless you were a big enough of a goober to actually pay for some sort of 'service')...the files on the network are hosted by the users...no 'provider' of the software hosts any files, as that would be quite illegal and open them up to direct prosecution...
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I came here for help. yes I truly did. I had downloaded the false Shareaza and did not know it until I came here and saw that Shareaza.com was the false one.. But I had success with it but I uninstalled it and installed the real one. After I had the real one , I had problems with it. Not giving me very many results when searched and not downloading the songs. The false one did. had no trouble with it and it downloaded fast. Anyway , I do appreciate your help although by the time you responded , i had already gone through three P2P softwares and had trouble with all of them except for the false Shareaza. No trouble with that one except giving all these ringtones to maybe 4 downloads for songs.


You are probably correct when you say I don't know how to use these very well. Could be true. I just have found none I like better than iTunes.

This will be my last post unless someone can give me a good reliable P2P program with a nice media player . Since as of now I don't have P2P software , so at the moment no problems . I will not post again. thanks for all your help.
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I'll leave that up to others to suggest. There's many Gnutella programs to choose from. But learning how to pick good from bad quality music is a skill you should learn. There are many tips on these forums, sometimes limited to specific forum sections, but the principles are the same for all the gnutella programs, and if you wish to learn about them, worth searching unless someone wishes to suggest them. Here's one example where to find them. eg: How to find music, & Typical file SIZEs of Spammed Virus files posing as audio files.

I'd recommend two sources of music. (1) with due care using a gnutella program, using hopefully new learnt skills to find decent quality audio files. (2) using a genuine Torrent program, either uTorrent or Vuse (Azureus).
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