You are right about there not being a DVDr source in this case... well not released at least. .mov source for the encode.

But this is highly uncommon. That .mov source would normally be DVD source.

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Nero7 does not have an automatic fit to disc feature as you are describing lengoldstein.

you have to go into the video options and choose custom and choose a specific bitrate....the only automatic feature is to prompt one that the transcoded file won't fit and to choose long or extended play....

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I assume that you received Nero Vision 4 as part of Nero 7, and NV4 does indeed have automatic fit to disc (NV3 didn't, maybe that's what you're thinking of). A quick look on Google should provide you with several examples. Here's one I found in 5 seconds:Archive: Nero Vision 4 DVD Authoring Guide | Articles - Digital Digest

[dripping sarcasm]wow...thanks for teaching me about how to use Google[/dripping sarcasm]

dunno about that guide as my version of Nero7 Unltra(which has version 4.1.0.15 of Nero Vision) does not have that option (which makes me wonder about the veracity of that guide)

here's my screenshot from my machine, lets see yours...

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Ooh, yuck, someone's been dripping sarcasm all over my monitor. Now where's the Windex?

Um, I'm trying to say this without sounding sarcastic, Peerless, but it looks as if you've had the Automatic function all the time. It's in that little box on your screen shot labeled "Quality setting: Automatic" (kinda tricky, I know). It looks as if all Nero did between your v.4.1.0.15 and my 4.9.7.6 in the Video Options area was make a few cosmetic changes to the menu, including adding the words "fit to disc" to the dialog box. Maybe it wasn't quite clear to everyone what Nero meant by Automatic.

If I'm not mistaken (and you can easily check on Google, ha ha), Nero allows free upgrades within each version, so you could get an upgrade to 4.9.7.6, the final version of NV4, by logging on to Nero - Nero 7 - Update and downloading Nero 7.11.10.0. I think you have to download the entire suite rather than individual programs. Just be sure you have your original serial number, because I think it's needed for installation. Good luck!

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using the automatic function with my version does not fit to disc...as I stated previously it only gives an error when the resultant VOB file is too large and gives the option to reduce quality to long play to fit....

guess I need to see if I can find a later update for nero7, which might be a tad difficult these days..

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That's a bummer...but I can attest fit-to-disk works perfectly in my version. It shouldn't be hard to get the latest upgrade for your Nero7; just click on the link I gave, Nero - Nero 7 - Update, enter your email address (required), and click on "Download," and you're off to the races.

will it still be Nero 7 Premium once updated? If I remember correctly there were differences between versions when I bought it i.e. Premium had features that Ultra didn't etc.

Email address works (I checked that already)

Dang, man, you sure ask a lot of questions about a gift horse. Well, I'm pretty sure that the online download version doesn't come with the nifty gift wrapping that says "World's Greatest Dad," but beyond that I make no guarantees. It's been a while since I did my own update, but I think it may have been possible to update individual programs within the suite. All I can say for sure is that no one has ever referred to a program in Nero 7 and I check and say, "Hey! Why don't I have that?" I suppose that once they're trying to sell you v. 9 it doesn't make much sense to continue distinguishing between 7 Premium and 7 Ultra.

What I can warn you against from bitter experience is installing the free OEM version of 8 or 9 that comes with a DVD writer. I did that once. It uninstalled my Nero 7 Premium or Ultra, whatever--let's call it Complete, shall we?--and put in a crippled version of Nero 8 Express that was missing half of Nero's features--the good half, IMHO. And you wouldn't believe the fight it put up when I tried to reinstall Nero 7 Complete (fortunately, I had moved the v.7 install files beforehand to a directory named NeroVII on another drive, so it didn't find and delete them). I still have the scars from that battle. See this big gash on my hard drive?