What I meant with free is "free as in free speech, not as in free beer".

A definition can be found at gnu.org: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

And that can never be true with software where you can't look at the source code.

You can have a look at our hostiles file at the phex web-svn:
http://phex.svn.sourceforge.net/view...fg?view=markup

Is it compatible?

Would sure be great if it was!

Best wishes,
Arne

Whoops! :wasntme:
I had a reply almost finished and made the mistake of trying to look at your list.
Firefox really hates four megabyte long web pages for some reason. :blink:

Anyway, your list is compatible. The only difference in format is I never leave
out the mask for single IP address blocks. This makes the list much easier to
sort, compare and merge because all of the lines have exactly the same
format. If Phex can deal with that you may as well mirror my list or merge it
with yours. The master copy is always at:
http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhous...reHostiles.zip

I update it at unpredictable intervals deliberately because some of the worst
offenders have been caught watching and waiting for me before changing
locations. [ Wankers. :D ] Check it once a week and that should be good
enough for now. It would be an amazingly powerful tool if you get Phex to
update it's copy automatically from your site roughly once a week. Since my
list is usually about ten megabytes you may as well host that resource in
zipped form to cut the download length and time to about 15% of the raw list.

I'll just run a quick compare here… …yep, thought so. You're using some of
the BlueTack lists too. Mine adds another 150,000 or so individual IPs from
direct scans of the gnutella world for the most pervasive worms, spam and
fakes. If Phex uses the list to clean up search results you definitely want to
run my list. :cool:


That k3w1 GNUville insider definition of "free" software is opaque to the rest of
the world. By that exact definition (yes, all four of those bulleted points)
b25 is "free" to me because I was one of the beta testers and virtually all of my
suggestions and requests went into it over the years. I may as well have
written the program myself. If you had said "Open Source" it would have been
perfectly clear. So there. :p

That the list fits is great!

I'll check if I can make downloading the list decentral (via Gnutella), then we can save bandwidth :)
The foundation for that is avaible in Phex, but I might have to tweak a bit...

As first step, we'll check how well Phex handles the list, and we can include it directly for each release.


I have to disagree on the point of b25 being free to you, though.

If it was free, then any following version would have been free, and you could still make the changes.
Since it isn't free, you can't, and everyone else can't either.

Open Source instead isn't free, because it can mean, that someone says: "Yes, you may look at the source, but you aren't allowed to change it."

The GNU "free" is what created and drives the whole GNU/Linux system and the whole free software community, and it is the base of all free software you can find today. It means: It is free, and it will stay free, and noone can take it away.

What BS seems to have had instead was an open development model, where you ask others for input, which is great, but doesn't give you real freedom with the program.

I contributed to a non-free program myself for some time, but stopped when I realized that all my contributions would be completely wasted once the dev decided he didn't want others to use the program anymore. I don't know how many hours upon hours of translating went down the drain back then...

I don't want to make that mistake again, and that's why I warn others against it, too.

Since I don't care about following versions or any further changes the point is
moot. It does the job exactly as I want and will do so forever. This is a case
where contributing worked and nobody can take away the result. To all the
BearShare insiders left over after Free Peers was mugged, that makes it free
enough. Something better and "free-er" will come along later, but not for
quite awhile because BearShare was well in the lead when genuine development
was killed by the RIAA and it's little iMesh lapdog.

Anyway, quibbling about semantics only a few know or care about is beside the point.
Let's get back to the science and sport of slaughtering the enemy in the field. :D

Does Phex have the ability to filter search results by hash? I have been
saving them up for a couple of years now and they cover virtually all of the
bad stuff. The LimeWire guys are working on it now and GTK has added the
ability last year. I'd like to be able to contribute to All the major servents at
once because the resulting panic among the spammers will be fun to watch.
The sudden extinction of several worms and several of the largest fake farms
would also be as welcome as the sudden demise of OverPeer last year. ;]

I think I'll add Phex to my stable now. Might as well get a good look at it now
that it's regained some momentum and is starting to become a spamfighter. :cool:

Phex uses a hostile list with about 100.000 entries for over 2 years or maybe more if I recall correctly... so its not that we just started spamfighting...
My tests showed that Phex handles your large list almost well... lookup times are a bit higher but are still in range and GUI memory spikes up quite a bit when scrolling through the list. The PATRICIA from Limewire will likely perform better. It might be worth thinking about integrating it, but it would likely mean that we would need to drop some features we have with IP rules now.

Phex is able to filter search results by hash, but it is currently not coming with a default blacklist of hashes. The user is able to define custom filter rules with hashes. But its should be no big deal to also use a default blacklist.

I have 12,477 unique hashes of spam, worms, trojans and fakes today.
I continually find more as new files come along. Do you want today's snapshot? ;]

Yes I would be happy about it...

Where do you want it? The phex.org email address is bouncing with "relay access denied" errors.

Two kids in my class use bearshare. One is smart and one is dumb. The smart one is using the old version of bearshare. The beta. She knows pro isn't good. And the dumb one uses BS 6. He said "LimeWire doesn't work for him". Because he isn't good. I told him to get rid of it. But he refuses.