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Hungarian10 August 24th, 2005 07:50 PM

Is Itunes a good program to download?
 
Heyya, I just downloaded Limewire and I need something to use to burn mp3's and cds is Itunes a good idea?

cathodraytube August 24th, 2005 08:02 PM

i dont like itunes....the you have to pay 99cents per song and its not even lossless.

and WMP works verry nicley for making cds for me, and i think it dose make mp3 cds too.

Lord of the Rings August 24th, 2005 08:06 PM

iTunes does fine! If you want to buy songs online then yes you need to pay for it. iTunes just got in a step ahead of WMP as that's their idea to do too.
iTunes will burn mp3 disks, audio disks, mp3 dvd disks, data cd's & dvd's also.
iTunes has its own music library folder separate from other music collections so it keeps it safe & easy to access. It also arranges songs by artist, & album. It also has auto find for song names if you're ripping music.
It's personal preference I guess. ;)
iTunes downld link

banmicrosofttoo August 25th, 2005 11:28 AM

lossless music isnt what its cracked up to be. yes, in theory it sounds good, however many people lack the decent equipment to enjoy it. i'd rather take a 100-120mb VBR MP3 album over a 680-700mb lossless album.


to burn music? i'd stick with nero burning rom, roxio media creator (they always change the name so much, remember the good 'ol adaptec days?), and cdrwin.
or any software that came with your computer or cd burner.

cathodraytube August 25th, 2005 11:49 AM

"lossless music isnt what its cracked up to be. yes, in theory it sounds good, however many people lack the decent equipment to enjoy it. i'd rather take a 100-120mb VBR MP3 album over a 680-700mb lossless album."

could you please explain this a little more?

what do you meen by decent equipment?

i can hear the differance between a 320k mp3 and a wav file on my 30$ portable CD player and 20$ sony headphones....

lossless music is for picky people (like me), if you dont care about sound qualety that much than by all means stick with mp3s or whatever format you want.

i can hear the differance on my "el cheepo" portable cd player AND on my not so el-cheepo computer, but if you cant than there is no need to bother going lossless.

each to his own.

banmicrosofttoo August 25th, 2005 12:47 PM

my friend has a large collection of legal mp3s available at archive.org so he tells me about it. i download a few lossless tracks and a few vbr mp3s they offer too.

i didnt notice the difference.

we go over to him and his gf's place. she has a nice sony vaio desktop system, expensive *** speakers and sound card, and they play some music. i noticed the difference then.

Lord of the Rings August 25th, 2005 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by banmicrosofttoo
lossless music isnt what its cracked up to be. yes, in theory it sounds good, however many people lack the decent equipment to enjoy it.
I have several apple lossless files that I have confidence with after listening thru headphone, main amp/secondary speaker output. I am not an expert but it sounds a damned site better than some mp3's conversions I've heard. Almost all mp3's crop the top of the frequency range. If you've lossed a certain degree of hearing sensibilities then you might not notice the differences (even if your ears had such training in the 1st case.) But perhaps after so many jams, gigs & rehearsals my ears might not be ideal. But all the same my ears are more rehearsed to hearing the difference compared to the average person. Subtle differences are oh so important to those musos that take the time to learn the diffrence. That's why people are wasting people's time converting decent songs at less than 192 or 160 vbr.

banmicrosofttoo August 25th, 2005 01:57 PM

:confused: am i losing my hearing? its possible.

Lord of the Rings August 25th, 2005 02:02 PM

Hahaha well just pointing out ... that there's listening sound loss with all people dependent on age. However for those that don't have any sound listening training then they might not won't differentiate between a 320 kbps or 128 kbps or 650 lossless playback!

And b/c they hear one song at 128 kbps that sounds reasonable they then take that as the norm & say it's ok to convert all songs at this sound quality. ... eeeek! :rolleyes:

banmicrosofttoo August 25th, 2005 02:53 PM

im young, was in various bands, been to loads of live shows, worked construction (especially the masonry saw for hours at a time unprotected) for 2 1/2 years and listen to music loud sometimes.


yah i think the hearing is going.

Lord of the Rings August 25th, 2005 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by banmicrosofttoo
yah i think the hearing is going.
Yes mot likely! All people lose thier sense of hearing ofter about 5 or so yrs of age. http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/i...les/halluc.gif

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http://bestsmileys.com/paranoid/7.gif But I guess it also depends upon what you've been telling your self & how many other voices you can hear. lol D (Only joking!) ;) :cool:

CyberStalker August 25th, 2005 07:44 PM

I find that Sonic RecordNow! does a good job at burning CD's.

Grandpa August 26th, 2005 04:26 PM

Hell I have a definite hearing loss many years of driving crawler tractors when I was a farmer. After farming worked in a sawmill then industrial construction. All very noisy occupations, not to mention back in the day you could hear my truck coming down the road from about a mile away tunes cranked ya know. Even with my damaged hearing I can hear the difference the again I love music all kinds doesn't matter from classical to rap and I must say there is a world of difference between 128 and 650. If your listening to 128 you are listening to music if you are listening to 650 you are in the music it moves your soul everything is crisp clear and sharp you can hear every note for me it is almost like I can feel what the artist feels. Whoops I am starting to ramble better get off this subject.

cathodraytube September 19th, 2005 09:05 PM

im glad that alot of you are seeing my point....iv been told many times by many ppl that lossless music is a waist of time ,bandwidth and HDD space...

is 650 what FLAC etc runs at? cuz i know that WMA lossless runs at about 900...

i still like my WAVs tho....1411kb/s...i know thers formats that give you the best of both worlds...compression and perfect sound...but i just like WAV best...they rip and burn faster than anything els and there compleatley CODEC - less...

i can hear a HUGE diff between a 128k and a WAV/wma lossless... and the diff between WAV and a 320k mp3 is a litlle harder to distungish but still fairly obvious to me...

Jomay September 20th, 2005 01:24 PM

itunes program
 
Help please....I downloaded music using limewire (which saved the files to c/my downloads)....then a friend asked me to download some songs onto his ipod...so i got itunes and set it up ...this is my problem.... -in itunes i go to the library and say add folder to library from limewire and allllll my music goes across there....now everytime i download a new song and later connect his ipod the music goes on to the ipod....how can i choose what music to put on the ipod....also this may seem like a silly question butttttt im a silly person "is the music stored on limewire (in the library) and the music stored on itunes (in that library) taking up twice the amount of space on my drive? like is 4 gigs of music stored on limewire sharing with itunes making itunes have 4 gig as well making my drive store in total 8 gigs??" ...Thanks for help in advance guys

Lord of the Rings September 20th, 2005 08:19 PM

IF your music files have been properly added to iTunes library then yes you'll end up with 2 copies of each. But before deleting, you should double-check that the songs are actually within the iTunes library. See How to transfer music to my iPod (& iTunes) for tips on using both LW & how to use iPod. Yes you can manually add songs to iPod but you need to see the tutorial 1st to see how!
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Originally posted by cathodraytube
is 650 what FLAC etc runs at? cuz i know that WMA lossless runs at about 900...
The bitrate of lossless files depends "mostly" upon the particular song file. Yes some lossless formats might have some variation, but the point is how they go about reducing size without throwing away information. I've had an apple lossless file as little as less than 30% of original size & bit rate around the 300 odd kbps but mostly its about half size & bit rate varies between song. How hard the song is to compress equates to the size when compressed & the bitrate compressed at.


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