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Unregistered September 5th, 2002 08:06 AM

Limewire is bullshit
 
I've been trying to connect from my brand new mac g4 with t1 one line at school. The green online connection button flashses for a second and then it ***** out. I'm not even supposed to download gnutella at school, I'm just trying to get it running.

What the hell do I have to do just to connect it?

Unregistered September 5th, 2002 08:10 AM

They have a specific board just for connection problems. I think that says alot.

Unregistered September 5th, 2002 09:49 AM

I got the same problem. If you figure it out give me an email. I would be very grateful.

healthcorp@excite.com

ajutagir September 5th, 2002 12:23 PM

Hello,

Your school's network may be blocking Gnutella traffic. If you know how, try to telnet to 64.61.25.171 port 6346 and let me know if it says "Gnutella OK" if it does not, you cannot use LimeWire from that internet connection.

Avi

Unregistered September 5th, 2002 08:17 PM

I've been havine the same connection problem lately also. The green spot would flash for a second and then go back to red. If I let it sit for a while, Limewire would eventually connect but my downloads are much slower now. I live in a dorm at school and they have blocks also, but they only slow down your connection and you can turn them off. My school doesnt have a block on mac run file-sharing. I think it is just a bug in Limewire.

paiz23 September 7th, 2002 11:58 AM

Can't Connect w/ LAN either
 
I can't connect either w/ a LAN in a dorm . I'm using an iBook w/ OS 10.1.2. I ran the telnet test and got "Gnutella OK" but still can't connect. A PC friend down the hall ( on the same LAN) uses WinMx and downloads up the yin-yang and WinMx is also a peer-to-peer.


My question is this: If my telnet test DID show "Gnutella OK" and my PC friend can download through our school's LAN using a peer-to-peer app, why won't Limewire ( either Pro version OR basic 2.5.5 - I've tried both) work on my Mac?

Is it a Gnutella-specific thing?

I also downloaded BrickHouse and set it to "accept Gnutella traffic" ( which apparently un-blocks your firewall if need be) and that did nothing.

At this point I really don't know what to do.
My school's IT dept. set up my Network control panel ( system pref) with several different IP addresses: an IP address, a Subnet mask address, a Router address and my Ethernet address.


Do any of these have anything to do w/ configuring Limewire to work w/ the LAN / Ethernet network?

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!!


Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bobomon September 7th, 2002 01:34 PM

Re: Can't Connect w/ LAN either
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paiz23
I can't connect either w/ a LAN in a dorm . I'm using an iBook w/ OS 10.1.2. I ran the telnet test and got "Gnutella OK" but still can't connect. A PC friend down the hall ( on the same LAN) uses WinMx and downloads up the yin-yang and WinMx is also a peer-to-peer.
The Gnutella OK should indicate that you can freely communicate with the Gnutella network thus indicating your local connection is not being blocked by the school firewall etc..

Quote:

My question is this: If my telnet test DID show "Gnutella OK" and my PC friend can download through our school's LAN using a peer-to-peer app, why won't Limewire ( either Pro version OR basic 2.5.5 - I've tried both) work on my Mac?
I am not a regular MAC user but I would suggest you uninstall Limewire and re-install it that should corract any flaky setting that might exist withing Limewire... you appear to have ruled out any problems outside of your computer.

Quote:

At this point I really don't know what to do.
My school's IT dept. set up my Network control panel ( system pref) with several different IP addresses: an IP address, a Subnet mask address, a Router address and my Ethernet address.

I don't think any of this would impact your issues with Gnutella... they are basic configurations. If you can funtion on the network in other ways, and the "Gnutella test" came back OK you appear to have ruled out these issues.

paiz23 September 7th, 2002 02:02 PM

Thanks for the info / suggestions, but unfortunately - none worked. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both 2.5.5 and the Pro version several times.

I can't keep a connection for longer than a few seconds. Get green light, it quickly goes to red. Then goes back to green. Then back to red. Endlessly.

Also, my friend on a PC using WinMx said her WinMx gave her an option to reconfigure TCP/IP settings to accept incoming TCP traffic ( ie: file sharing with WinMx on a PC) .


Is this something I should try in my Mac System Preferences?
If so, how should I reconfigure them to accept Gnutella?

Thanks again =)

paiz23

bobomon September 8th, 2002 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by paiz23
Also, my friend on a PC using WinMx said her WinMx gave her an option to reconfigure TCP/IP settings to accept incoming TCP traffic ( ie: file sharing with WinMx on a PC) .

Is this something I should try in my Mac System Preferences?
If so, how should I reconfigure them to accept Gnutella?

Well TCP traffic is the primary form of connection used on the internet/IP ... the other big player is UDP... the biggest difference being is TCP extablishes a connection so there is true handshaking for data integrity where UDP is sent with no guarantee that the date arrived intact... I cannot imagine that you are not using TCP.... I haven't used WinMX recently... I may look into it's setup to see what I can find out there... I don't think that would be your problem though. IF I were you I would post this question in the Limewire / MAC section in hopes of snagging the attention of a knowledgable MAC user as this may very well be an issue regaring using a MAC.

Unregistered September 8th, 2002 05:26 PM

telnet test?
 
how do you go about doing a telnet test? i'm a mac user and have been having the same problems.

any help appreciated



derk

Unregistered September 9th, 2002 06:51 AM

I cannot get limewire to connect worth anything during the day. i have all the same problems mentioned and have tryed everything given to me as a solution. But me being the insomniac that i am, get on limewire at all hours of the night and early early morning and have no problems whatsoever. I can connect easily and download at incredible speeds. Can you explain this to me?

gbildson September 9th, 2002 08:52 PM

University bandwidth throttling & blocking
 
I believe that Universities are stepping up their bandwidth limiting and blocking. There are very sophisicated protocol level software that Universities are using that will throttle total Gnutella bandwidth or totally cut it off. Schools tend to loosen these limits at night if I understand things correctly.

Someone needs to find out what your network administrators are doing on your network.

Thanks
-greg

paiz23 September 9th, 2002 09:07 PM

Gnutella Blockking in Schools
 
Unfortunately, when I asked the IT Dept. at my university, they said "Since this has to do with file sharing, we're not allowed to answer ANY questions about it or even talk to you about the subject at all. Goodbye"

( When I tried to find out if they blocked port 6346 / Gnutella).

Wich is hilarious because you know that *they* know half the kids on campus are downloading files as we speak.

paiz23 September 9th, 2002 09:12 PM

Re: telnet test?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
how do you go about doing a telnet test? i'm a mac user and have been having the same problems.

any help appreciated



derk

What I did was do a search ( Sherlock) for "Terminal", which is a built-in Mac app that lets you run the telnet test. Once that Terminal app window pops up, it will prompt you ( w/ flashing cursor) to enter info. Enter the info / numbers from the Limerwire page abouit running the Telnet test and hit "Enter".

If after a few seconds you see the text "Gnutella OK" you MAY be able to connect to Gnutella networks. However, Zenzele Bell from Limewire told me that getting "Gnutella OK" does not necessarily mean you *definitely* can access Gnutella. When I asked if there was any other test I could run to find out I got no reply to this question.


Sorry I don't have the link to the Limewire telnet test page.

Unregistered September 10th, 2002 08:17 AM

I am the starter of this topic. Limewire is the only software I can download since I'm os 9.

The green connection light will light up for 4 seconds...then it disconnects right away.

I've reinstalled and uninstalled about 4 times, still the same problems, not installation.

Come one LimeWire people if we're gonna appreciate and register the pro version we have to fall in love with the original. **** or get off the pot rockstar!

efield September 10th, 2002 08:40 PM

Re: University bandwidth throttling & blocking
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gbildson
I believe that Universities are stepping up their bandwidth limiting and blocking.
An unconfirmed side effect of this bandwidth limiting is file transfers cut off and retry. More specifically since upstream bandwidth for P2P at my university is saturated uploads give a Transfer Interrupted message about every 32 K of progress.

Last spring I saw a few uploads not give errors and at that point the connection was less likely to be saturated since it was finals week and a number of students had already left. Increasing the timeout for uploads may improve things by reducing the number of reconnects. I do realize swarm downloads also give Transfer Interrupted messages but the amount of data transferred isn't large enough and the uploads often reconnect.

efield September 11th, 2002 10:56 AM

That might be the case Peerless. Bandwidth limiting by the packet would allow a certain size of data to transfer (like 32 or 128 K) but drop the rest. The application still wants to send the remaining data so it tries again, gets a few more packets across and continues with this cycle.

It sounds like you're saying only some of the uploaders are cutting out -- meaning their downloading bandwidth is saturated and causing the same problem I'm having but in the other direction. My downloads don't cut out repeatedly but they just go slow.

MacTerminator September 11th, 2002 04:38 PM

Hmmmm.....Interesting. I've had a lot of downloads cutting off - yet if I kill and reselect them, they often resume instantly (this normally happens every 30 seconds or so until I get cross and look for another host).

When I saw this issue being discussed previously, I think the general opinion was that it was a strange response from some other [badly coded] clients. This idea of university throttling seems very logical, though.


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