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Unregistered June 3rd, 2001 04:56 PM

Firewalls../ Sharing...
 
How do i know what im sharing....?
Also every second (Literally) a firewall message pops ups saying so and so was denied....Even after i disconect...whats going on here..Im on a mac & i use norton personal firewall.

clairbrock June 3rd, 2001 05:52 PM

Similar Problem
 
I apologize for "latching" onto your thread, since I don't have a solution, but I do have a similar problem.

I left LimeWire running today, but "Disconnected" when I left the house for several hours because I thought my firewall (ZoneAlarm) would kick in. When I came back home, and went to reconnect, I was surprised my Monitor screen showed a few new uploads. The red "Disconnect" light was still lit as I had left it, and more wierd, my firewall hadn't kicked in after the ten minute "no activity" setting I have it set at. I'm assuming continuous searches and passes had continued for the four hours I was gone, as it was the only App open.

It's no big deal -- I'm glad members found what they wanted -- but I'd have never given a thought to rebooting (and possibly dumping uploaders) since I thought I was disconnected.

Hope we get some answers to your post! :)

Unregistered June 3rd, 2001 08:01 PM

Re: Similar Problem
 
Quote:


I left LimeWire running today, but "Disconnected" when I left the house for several hours because I thought my firewall (ZoneAlarm) would kick in. When I came back home, and went to reconnect, I was surprised my Monitor screen showed a few new uploads. The red "Disconnect" light was still lit as I had left it, and more wierd, my firewall hadn't kicked in after the ten minute "no activity" setting I have it set at. I'm assuming continuous searches and passes had continued for the four hours I was gone, as it was the only App open.

I'm guessing both of you are on dsl/cable or higher. Also guessing when you connect to other hosts you get a big *** horizon. So you're "connected" to a lot of people. You open LimeWire for a minute and get 400 queries and say you have 200 that match your files. You "disconnect" and leave the app open and walk away. Come back and see you're uploading files to other hosts. Well when you "disconnected" the only thing you prevented were further queries. Those people who got those 200 search results back from you are searching through the list to find a good host to download from. Since you have the LimeWire (app) still open, people can still connect to you. B/c the port 6346 (or whatever you use) is still open and ready for a connection. They'll find a good connection and start downloadin. Thats why that happens. I use Freedom http://www.freedom.net and it lets people connect as long as I'm using LimeWire but once I close LimeWire it starts blocking.

Quote:


It's no big deal -- I'm glad members found what they wanted -- but I'd have never given a thought to rebooting (and possibly dumping uploaders) since I thought I was disconnected.

Good job man. I wish we had more people like you. Keep it up!
We the users are the ones that must keep gnutella alive.

clairbrock June 7th, 2001 06:02 PM

Thanks, Unregistered! That makes so much sense, and thank you for clearly explaining it. I may just leave a connection open to help out Gnutella, but people like you that take the time to answer questions are really the backbone of the system. Thanks again!

scud June 7th, 2001 10:18 PM

Thank you. I'm scud by the way. I forgot to enter my nick. I love explaining a wonderful technology to intelligent people who want to learn and understand it. That makes me feel good that others acknowledge my efforts. Thank you again.

Unregistered June 9th, 2001 10:35 AM

Scud,

Please help. I understand that people behind firewalls can't access my system because I'm behind a firewall. I'd really like to be able to share files.

I've posted a request for help on the export IP command.

I'm behind a firewall.

If you see this, would you please look at my post with subject "Export IP?"

I'm adding here because I don't know any other way to get attention to my post :(

Thank you very much!

Mike Peralta June 9th, 2001 12:04 PM

Hey check out the tutorial I wrote on getting gnutella to work even if you're not directly connected to the internet.

Unregistered June 16th, 2001 10:29 AM

Mike,

Thank you very much for your post. I really appreciate the response.

I checked your document. It is awsome for the average Windows user with a small home network; possibly using Windows 98 sharing?

I'm on a fairly small network, too. My firewall is Linux Mandrake 7.2. While I understand the basics and am aware of most everything in your document, it doesn't give any pointers on IPChains.

Can you offer any input for my scenario?

Thanks!

jackiecontruccipizzagirl July 25th, 2004 01:28 PM

Sharing While Disconnected
 
[I have an eMac running 10.2.8 and I now use (lemme go look) LimeWire 4.0.7. I plan on getting pro in a few days when I can afford it. I have the built-in firewall running. I have cable internet.]

Anyway I'm totally lost. I just started doing the whole Limewire thing like three days ago and the more I read the more confused I get.

So I understand you can still share while you're disconnected. What's the point of disconnecting then? Frankly I don't care if people get stuff off my computer the entire 10-odd hours a day I have it on and don't need to conserve bandwidth (whatever bandwidth is). I don't even care if people come into my house when I'm sleeping and copy all my CDs as long as they leave a cookie. But I would like to have the option to turn sharing OFF if I wanna email someone thirty 10MB files all at once. I do not think I am in any way stingy but I would like to know what exactly is happening with my computer. I mean it IS mine. Mac people have the tendency to leave tons of applications running because of how sturdy OSX is, but do I need to close LimeWire to be sure I'm not uploading? And while we're on the topic, how does someone like me who doesn't know squat about computers know I'm not uploading when LimeWire is off?

Mr. and/or Ms. Unregistered said:

"I use Freedom http://www.freedom.net and it lets people connect as long as I'm using LimeWire but once I close LimeWire it starts blocking."

So I need to worry about having a firewall because people might be snooping around on my computer even when LimeWire is turned off -- does this have anything to do with the fact that I now use LimeWire sometimes or is it because the internet is just unsafe in general, even for someone who's never heard of LimeWire?

I just got cable internet a few days ago, and before that I never downloaded or uploaded anything at all, so if I seem ignorant, well I am.

If anyone knows that the answers I'm looking for can already be found somewhere please redirect me. I tried searching but I'm not even sure I know enough of the terminology to search effectively.

Love ya guys!

jackiecontruccipizzagirl July 25th, 2004 06:42 PM

Now Norton Allows Access ... huh ??
 
OK now I just put Norton Firewall on my computer just for fun and I turned off ALL access ... yet people are downloading files from my computer.

What gives?

FYI, MY COPIED/PASTED BASICS:
(1) I have an eMac running OS X 10.2.3.
(2) I have two firewalls I play around with out of boredom: the OS X built-in firewall and Norton Personal Firewall 1.0.2.
(3) I use LimeWire 4.0.7.
(4) I will get LimeWire Pro when I have some cash. I believe in supporting LimeWire and carrying my own weight.
(5) I got cable internet just days ago. Before that I downloaded nothing but 120 KB pictures from my favorite movie fan-sites.
(6) I'm very new to all this and I know I'm ignorant. Hopefully this is temporary. If you would like to make fun of me that's totally cool, but please be constructive and don't think you're not shooting fish in a barrel.
(7) I may or may not know enough terminology at this early stage to search these forums effectively. I ask questions only after making a sincere effort to find answers beforehand. If I'm asking a question that insults you, I will be neither hurt nor offended if you point this out. I would LIKE you to point this out. Just don't mistake stupidity and lack of common sense for laziness.

murasame July 25th, 2004 07:05 PM

Jackie, for a nice explanation on what bandwidth is, check ursula's posts here: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...6376#post86376
There are two different bandwidths: one for uploading and one for downloading. While uploading will help your donwload speeds, unless you're trying to upload to, like, a 100 peers (I'm exaggerating), then uploading won't slow down your downloads.
If you are disconnected, what you'll share is the uploads that were active at the point of the disconnection, meaning thatif you have 3 uploads and disconnect, you'll still upload until the uploads are finished, cut-off or you quit LW.
From that point of view, disconnecting will cut off other incoming seaches and also outgoing searches (you won't be able to search).
By "when Limewire is off", I suppose you mean when you have quit Limewire? In that case, Limewire won't upload or download anymore. Think about it: it's almost like asking "If my Mac is turned off, how do I know that it's not still running?" Weird, huh?
As for the Firewall thing, with the two Firewalls up, go to Limewire's Preferences, and click Bug Reports. Click the button to get an example then scroll down to the part where it says: "recieved incoming this session". If it says true then your firewalls are not blocking LW. If it says false then they are.

murasame July 25th, 2004 07:09 PM

Oh, and the "check the Bug reports" also concerns the very first Unregistered of this thread.

jackiecontruccipizzagirl July 26th, 2004 05:20 AM

murasame,

Thanks so much for all your help. I'll follow all your suggestions and get back to you and let you know what I come up with and whether or not I ever want to hear from you again.

(KIDDING!!!)

:o)

TTYL

murasame July 26th, 2004 08:31 AM

Er, Jackie?
You still have the 10.2.3? Why don't you update it to 10.2.8? Run a system update. There may even be a security update or two or maybe a java updater that you haven't got.

jackiecontruccipizzagirl July 26th, 2004 09:16 AM

10.2.3 really means 10.2.8
 
mirasorvino,

It was a typo, homey.

In case you're wondering why I'm not using Panther, well I bought it and it worked fine until I upgraded to 10.3.5 or whatever, then Safari wouldn't work.

jackiecontruccipizzagirl July 26th, 2004 09:18 AM

P.S. Why would I wanna touch your grub?
 
You're very presumptuous.

murasame July 26th, 2004 11:11 AM

...
...
I'm neither English nor American, so I tend to, uh, keep expressions and stuff that I find kinda "funny" (this particular one I picked up from the Friends show. Notice the ""...)
It is not to be taken seriously, of course (thank GOD.)
Also, about the Latest Panther, try installing it again from the CD then reinstalling the updates. It is not the first time I hear about someone doing a software update only to find that it kinda screwed up their previously working Mac.

murasame July 26th, 2004 11:15 AM

mirasorvino? Huh? Maybe you were trying to point out the typo.

jackiecontruccipizzagirl July 26th, 2004 04:49 PM

Port 6346 Intruders After Limewire Shutdown
 
Another firewall question!

I get people attempting access to my computer (through port 6346) a whole lot nowadays -- long, long after I shut down LimeWire, even if I shut down while no uploads are ... uploading. I mean TONS of attempts, like 50-100 every ten minutes. Coincidence? I mean LimeWire uses 6346 and ... well I had Norton running before and I never got anywhere near the number of access attempts, and the few I got were not all 6346 attempts.

Thoughts? Ideas?

Orders for a large double-cheese with mushrooms?

:oP

murasame July 26th, 2004 07:21 PM

None.

I'll go for that order though.


EDIT: It just occured to me: maybe these people just have nothing else to do so they look for firewalled computers to try their hacker hands on. Since LW's port is the one that's "open", that's probably also the easiest to access/break/whatever.
Either that or you have some really really coool stuff in your Mac that everyone wants.

et voilą July 26th, 2004 08:05 PM

Lots of acceses can be caused by sharing popular files. Those files are included in the download mesh (a distributed system in gnutella to give other sources available to the downloaders). Some clients take a lot of time before clearing their download mesh cache (ie bearshare) meaning they'll ask for the file even when LW is shut down.

Avez-vous compris? ;)

jackiecontruccipizzagirl August 1st, 2004 03:08 PM

Well, whoever it is, for whatever reasons, they can bug me all they want and steal whatever they want because (a) I don't have any information worth stealing and (b) if they plant viruses or atomic bombs on my computer I'll just reformat and reinstall. With a Mac this is about as difficult as brushing your teeth.

But how come Norton is always telling me LimeWire wants to open new ports, even after 6346 has been opened?


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