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proseandcon November 19th, 2004 08:55 AM

Connection Problem
 
Been using LimeWire a coupla years on 1 Gig G4 with Mac OSX 10.3.6 and 1024 kbps DSL.

The transfer speeds slowed down to 1kbps so I purchased new version of LimeWire PRO. Still slow, but lived with it.

Then upgraded to 4.2.2 and now it will not even connect. What can be done?

stief November 19th, 2004 06:29 PM

odd

couple of troubleshooting suggestions:

if you can connect, check transfer speeds from a reliable source (download one of the files from www.magnetmix.com --I just checked and got the transfer at 124KB/s). Transfers usually depend on the host.

Messed up user prefs? Check by creating a new admin user in OS X's System Preferences->Accounts. You can transfer the LW installer to the public folder of your usual account, or just get a new installer for the new account by going to http://www.limewire.com/english/cont...pro_lookup.jsp

If LW runs fine in the new account, then you'll know the problem is in the user settings of your old account.

proseandcon November 19th, 2004 08:34 PM

now connected
 
In the time since posting, LimeWire now is connecting and the quality is "turbocharged." However, the download speed is still in the 0-2kb/s range, including from magnetmix.

I tried following you instructions but was stumped in finding the "new account" I established. I am a single user with a single computer and have no knowledge of how or why to use alternate accounts.

I did strip any and all LimeWire remnants of the computer to reinstall and configure from scratch. This completed, I am still downloading at a top speed of 2 kb/s.

Any suggestions?

stief November 19th, 2004 09:00 PM

See the OS X Help for "Adding a new user account to your computer"

Creating multiple accounts on the same computer in Panther is really handy and quite easy. All it means is that the new account has its own home folder (and thus all its own preferences). I use separate accounts on my iBook to keep my usual prefs safe. For example, I like to use a separate account when trying out a beta version. If anything is odd, I don't have to worry about my usual prefs or files getting messed up. Too, if one of my kids needs my computer for something, I don't have to worry about them messing with my desktop pattern, email settings, dock location, etc.

You can have multiple accounts running at the same time, and use the Fast User Switching feature of Panther to switch from one to the other. Rather cool, really :)

Anyway--back to your situation: The magnetmix test is important: something is choking your bandwidth (I hope it's not your ISP messing with filesharing controls). Go here, and test/check out your ISP's internet connection speeds http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest

What do you get?

proseandcon November 20th, 2004 08:53 AM

connect speed
 
The bandwidth speed is measuring 900 - 1000 kb/s.

How do I test if my ISP has filesharing controls? Is that even legal? Can I request they remove them. I am with Verizon Avenue.

ursula November 20th, 2004 09:08 AM

Hey, proseandcon !

Hope you're not unhappy with my renaming of your thread here...

And, you scored 'in the gold' here with mad sailor-man stief helping you...

Sure it will be resolved soon !

Cheers...

stief November 20th, 2004 09:37 AM

[Hey ursula--good to see you around again]

re verizon, http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...8&pagenumber=3 only reports one poster mentioning verizon (dissed)

google "verizon filesharing" and you'll find lots more, but call Verizon and explain that you're having trouble downloading LEGITIMATE content over the gnutella network (give them the magnetmix example) and ask if they "restrict or throttle filesharing to the gnutella network over port 6346." I don't know of easier ways to test gnutella connectivity.

As far as your own setup is concerned . . . how many files are in your incomplete folder?

proseandcon November 20th, 2004 10:14 AM

I am back to not being able to connect though my tested bandwith speed is 1100 kb/s.

There were only a half dozen incomplete files that are now deleted.

I e-mailed Verizon Avenue support regarding the gnutella restriction and await word.

Googling the company only shows a stance of fighting the RIAA.

stief November 20th, 2004 10:38 AM

found another test-- http://www3.limewire.com:6346/

I expect it should show you "Your test page was a success!" and will mean that you at least have a route through port 6346

btw--when you removed all old limewire traces, I'm guessing you also removed the LimeWire folder from ~/Library, right? email me and I'll send you my gnutella.net file (it has a good list of connections for startup).

ursula November 20th, 2004 10:45 AM

There I was trying to be good for a change and not blasting all here with my enormous technicolor sig...

The same sig that of course has the link for >

Port :6346 - Test If It Is 'Blocked'

You just cannot win ! :eek:

stief November 20th, 2004 10:48 AM

DOH!!! I forgot, and spent too much time looking up gbildson's original link. Thanks for the reminder Ursula, and sorry for the senility :(

proseandcon November 20th, 2004 10:50 AM

I tried twice and quicky received the "Your test page was a success!" message.

LimeWire is still struggling to connect without success.

When I swept the remnants, I did a search of all files with LimeWire in the title and deleted them.

You will have to explain to me what I do with your "gnutella.net file."

Lord of the Rings November 20th, 2004 10:58 AM

proseandcon may I ask what connection devices you use? ie: Modem & router brand & model numbers. And did you do a Bug Report check (see instructions & sample image) is your result True/False? If it's true, then I'll run away. And how long have you had this problem? Mths, weeks?

stief November 20th, 2004 11:02 AM

the gnutella.net file is in the preferences folder of your OS X Library, and contains a list of good peers LW tries to connect to on startup. Just on the off chance yours is corrupt, I was offering mine as a replacement. Honestly though, LW 4.2 should have NO trouble connecting, and your situation really has me confused, unless something beyond your computer is interfering.

[Ursula/LOTR: what kind of speeds do you get from www.magnetmix.com ? You're in Europe just now, right? Just wondering how reliable magnetmix is for checking download speeds]

ursula November 20th, 2004 11:20 AM

A 12MB file averaged around 400Kbps from 4 sources.
(That's with a so-called ADSL 128/512.)

And remember I am on a rather loony island with huge numbers of people connected and only really one way in and out !
(And that is under water !)

And, a great big TA to you for at that moment something rather desirable was on page 1 !!!!!!!
;)

For testing connections, believe it or not, I almost always use

PC Pitstop

Which again just happens to be in my sig...
But, for MAC users ???

proseandcon November 20th, 2004 11:34 AM

At the height of my "turbocharged" connection last night, my magnetmix download topped out at 6 KB/S as a single download from 9 hosts.

There is no reduction of speed in my Entrourage/Explorer dealings, only LimeWire.

Lord of the Rings November 20th, 2004 11:38 AM

For me I tried the 1st example. A max of 20 kb/s from 2 sources. I was/am already dwnlding 2 other items & have a max sped of about 28 kb/s (250 kbps.)

These 2 I have bookmarked: http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest & also http://www.broadbandreports.com/tools

stief November 20th, 2004 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by proseandcon
There is no reduction of speed in my Entrourage/Explorer dealings, only LimeWire.
OK. Well, you've tried the clean install, and know your regular HTTP internet connections are fine, so something is choking your gnutella connections. LimeWire uses java, and so does the broadband speed test, so I doubt Java is the problem. LW 4.2 connects fine for others, so it's not in 4.2. Magnetmix can deliver through gnutella at great speeds (thanks Urs and LOTR for the trans (sub?)-atlantic test).

Looks like we'll have to see what Verizon says.

Cheers

Lord of the Rings November 20th, 2004 12:55 PM

It might sound basic but if you coud answer my questions to this post: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...670#post107670 it 'might' point to an issue you have you never knew you had.

Sometimes a good way to sort connection problems is to delete your LW prefs found here: /Users/your_username/Library/Preferences/LimeWire But you should keep a note of your settings 1st b/c you'd need to reset them. Sometimes basic solutions work wonders.

Lord of the Rings November 20th, 2004 01:19 PM

The reason I was asking how long you've had this problem is that a no. of people have had issues after uupdating to OS 10.3.6 On person suggested to use the standalone Combo update instead. Another suggested to use the Standalone Java installer which has surprisingly helped a no. of people in a very short time. People who previously did fine with LW. But after updating OSX they came up with different behaviours from LW. This suggests some issues with updating online! Try the standalone Java installation. LW is created from Java & runns on Java. The most recent version of LW was put together using the ost recent versions of Java!

The reason I was asking about your devices & your incoming test is in case you have a NAT modem but didn't know it. Sure you might be able to dwnld with it but you also might be limited & people uplding from you might be minimal to what it should be. If your result is false, it suggests you might need to forward a port to enable LW much greater access.

proseandcon November 20th, 2004 01:40 PM

The problem pre-existed before I updated to OS 10.3.6. It was a problem even before I udated to Panther. I have been slow in acting on this for months because I had been accustomed to such slow transfer rates on my previous dial-up.

My router/modem is the internal ethernet connection in my G4 Titanium.

I did the bug report and the answer was true -- no firewall problem.

Lord of the Rings November 20th, 2004 01:59 PM

An ozzy Rules Football handpass over to Stief. Or just make that I switched play over to the opposite wing. lol


Optimising LW & Maximising Uplds & Dnlds A (1st thread only) & also The best of all is part B & the last & least of all is part C hints Try not to force Resume too many files at once else it can play havoc with connection quality & result in longer than normal queueing & slower than normal settling down of LW.

proseandcon November 22nd, 2004 12:44 PM

Verizon Avenue informs me that they have no peer-to-peer restrictions or filters.

When I managed to connect yesterday, my downloads never exceeded 1 kb/s -- but I did see an upload reach 6 kb/s.

It has to be something simple. What do I try next?

stief November 22nd, 2004 02:27 PM

safe boot, permissions repair, reinstall java, and retry in a new admin account (to make sure it's not some corrupt setting in your current home folder).

These have all been suggested before, so something was missed along the way I guess.

Other than that, an other factor would be the entourage/explorer, vs Safari/Mail, but I doubt that would make such a difference. Virus protection software? Really, these are just guesses since your setup and machine look to be more than enough to do much better. LW 4.2 is fine itself, and you've already done a clean install, so I doubt the installer was the problem.


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