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DMF February 4th, 2005 08:38 PM

Port Fwd -> searches quit working??
 
I am running 4.2.6 on W2k over cable modem with a NAT router. When I first brought up LW, searches to all appearances worked fine. But my completion rate wasn't good, and my uploads few and far between. So I "Forced IP" (still not sure what that is), then locked internal IP and port forwarded through the router.

Cool! Suddenly my completion % jumps way up, lots of uploads (I had to limit), and I started seeing lots more queries, suggesting that I'm meshing with the other peers much better.

The problem is that my search results have gone to hell. I would (before port forwarding) search on '***'songs and get like 250 hits. Now I get 20!

Search on 'Mozart' and get 8 (EIGHT!? *I'm* serving more than that!) hits. 'Les C***l' used to get about 175. Now maybe 10. 'M***y B***s' == 1 ONE bloody hit.

What the heck is going on?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

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Lord of the Rings February 4th, 2005 10:45 PM

What type of connection do you have?

Let LW settle down before doing anything. Depending on how many incomplete & shared files this can take a while for them to load & be accounted for & for attempts to be made to connect to each individual incomplete. Also do not use your Resume function on all your incompletes in order to get them started. This can play havoc with LW's connection quality, & use up all of LW's & your comp's resources. And it's not the most effective way to get files to start & find sources.

DMF February 4th, 2005 11:06 PM

As I said above, cable modem. 3 down, 1 up (I think). Connection Quality shows 'Turbocharged'. I did the port forwarding Wednesday and LW's been up since then. That should be quite enough time for it so "settle down", don't you think?

Please try a search on 'Mozart' and tell me what your hit count is. I can't believe that the 3 found on my last retry is anywhere close to real.

Lord of the Rings February 4th, 2005 11:12 PM

May I recommend you update to LW 4.4.1? Sorry I have something to do for a short time so I was quickly going thru some threads I'm subscribed to.

Lord of the Rings February 4th, 2005 11:30 PM

I did a search for Mozart & got over 300 results. (to be more specific it was 350)

So when you did the port forwarding, you set up a static ip?

DMF February 5th, 2005 12:17 AM

yes.

Mozart just produced 30 hits. And the search seemed to take quite a while. I'm currently connected to 30 peers and 24 leaves. Is that normal?

trap_jaw4 February 5th, 2005 12:50 AM

did you forward both tcp AND udp ports?

DMF February 5th, 2005 09:29 AM

Not explicitly. My router doesn't seem to make the distinction.

Hmm.. *I* don't make the distinction. What does the packet type have to do with address translation?

Lord of the Rings February 5th, 2005 09:35 AM

How do you have LW's Firewall settings set? Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewall.
And are you using LW 4.4?

DMF February 5th, 2005 11:40 AM

No, as I stated in the first sentence of the first post I'm using 4.2.6. 4.4 is still in beta. When it's ready for general release I'll upgrade.

Firewalls page has Force IP checked, with the default port.

Note that a fellow recently complained in the Upload/Download section that his searches have gone to hell, too.

Another factor to add into the equation, I'm filtering searches by restricting to 3 stars and cable model or better. I tried that earlier - before I changed the router configuration - and obviously saw fewer hits, but nothing like this.

DMF February 5th, 2005 12:00 PM

Now this is interesting. I took the filters off so that I'll accept *any* hit on a search. Searched Mozart just before and got 23 hits. Searched it after and got 92 hits.

Headed in the right direction, but n.b. 90 of those hits should have gotten through my filters. All 90 are 3+ stars and cable or better. There's something wrong with the filters.

Where are they implemented, at the client end or the responder end?


Nor is this the whole story. If I search on 'Mozart Requiem' I get a set of hits. But if I search on 'Mozart' almost none of the Requiem hits show up in that search. How is that possible?

Lord of the Rings February 5th, 2005 12:08 PM

I'm not going to answer you last post, at least for now. But LW 4.4.1 is the official release. Beta is at 4.3.3 I think. Unfortunately the webmasters are very slow at updating their websites. They say 4.2.6 but it's actually 4.4.1!!! Version 4.2.6 was about 5.7 MB in size whereas 4.4 is about 3.7 MB in size. As soon as you press the downld your browser downld window will tell you the total size. See: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/download.shtml

Reduce your filters to zero. Accept all incoming qualities in your searches. See how many mozarts you get now.

DMF February 5th, 2005 02:05 PM

Okay, 4.4.1 up and running.

Search on Mozart now returning 113 hits.

One thing I did that I'd forgotten is apply a couple options from the web site, the important one being to reject IPs of 192.168.*.* and 10.*.*.*. I expected this to affect leaf nodes since it's entirely possible that many aren't properly configured. But I didn't expect to affect many Ultrapeers, and isn't the peer where searches are resolved?

DMF February 5th, 2005 02:08 PM

Hey, where'd the Ultrapeer option go? It says I am one, but what if I didn't want to be?

fabion February 5th, 2005 02:27 PM

in LW 1)tools 2) options 3)speed

DMF February 5th, 2005 04:05 PM

Oh yeah. Lost it. Thanks.

Might "OOB Searching" have something to do with this? It's not very well explained.

fabion February 5th, 2005 05:10 PM

Possibly, but from what I have read OOB should just speed up searches.

Try enabling it and disabling it and see which works best for you.

Don't forget to click apply for the changes to take effect.

PostMaster February 6th, 2005 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of the Rings
I'm not going to answer you last post, at least for now. But LW 4.4.1 is the official release. Beta is at 4.3.3 I think. Unfortunately the webmasters are very slow at updating their websites. They say 4.2.6 but it's actually 4.4.1!!! Version 4.2.6 was about 5.7 MB in size whereas 4.4 is about 3.7 MB in size. As soon as you press the downld your browser downld window will tell you the total size. See: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/download.shtml

Reduce your filters to zero. Accept all incoming qualities in your searches. See how many mozarts you get now.

Hey that is some cool stuff you got going in the link you made, May I suggest you copy and paste that link to your sig so it will be there all the time and maybe this guide for Port forwarding for routers.

You got to teach me or tell me what program you used to create those shots :) I really like to know :)
http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm


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