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hushtool August 25th, 2005 05:25 PM

very slow.....please help
 
Hi,

my DL speed is about 2-8kbps, its absolutely killing me. I have recently switched to cable internet, and ever since i have had to endure excruciating DL speed. My modem is connected via Ethernet Card, i use windows 98, pent 3 @ 500mhz, 196 RAM. don't know if this is useful? I never had a problem with Limewire in the past, with my previous High speed internet connectrion....with the exact same Limewire, and computer.

I have no active firewalls on my computer?!?!? I have deleted antivirus program, and still nothing, Limewire initially upon starting indicates a firewall, then it goes away...

I have no problem connecting to limewire, i think?? I always have excelleent or better connection strength.

I have tried changing ports, preferences, im at my wits end.

What the heck is going on???????

Would appreciate any help any of you can give me...

Thanks ,

Scotty

et voilą August 25th, 2005 05:35 PM

There are many modem with firewalls. Search your model on google along with the firewall term to see if there is one. Often you can desactivate it or open ports.

Ciao

moziman August 26th, 2005 09:08 AM

Slower than I can bear...........
 
Same problem here with slowness, I can download a mp3 from IE in a 10 th of the time, the highest rate I have seen has been 12 kb, joke, have ADSL XP sp2 and have tried all the fixes mentioned in the connection problems, lucky to get 12kb, I would have thought peer to peer would be much faster, really this hardly worth the bother. I have Spyware Nuker and Etrust antivirus, anyone know if they can cause a slow down, Have enabled all the XP firewall options including TCP and UDP Ports at 6346, disabled auto tips and auto connect, removed .limewire while totally logged out, left modem on for hours no difference.

Any ideas?

moziman

Grandpa August 26th, 2005 09:16 AM

What version of LimeWire are you running

banmicrosofttoo August 27th, 2005 12:47 AM

no problems here. i just opened the ports on the firewall and i've had fast downloads. its either you're downloading from slow sources, or you're having issues with the firewall.

Sgt August 27th, 2005 03:18 AM

Hi hushtool

If you have usb ports in your computer install the drivers for them If you haven't already done so

Then if the modem can be connected to the usb ports, Do that

Install the usb drivers for your modem, or if it didn't come with usb drivers, re-install the modem drivers again, because windows will not recognise the modem till you do.

Also you get better surfing/downloading through your usb ports than ethernet connections which were made for office or home networks.

Hope This Helps

Sgt

moziman August 28th, 2005 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa
What version of LimeWire are you running

I was running 4.8 and have now just downloaded 4.9 assume its

the latest as I was promted on opening limewire.

Still getting the same slow download currently but seems on

initial testing slightly faster but that could be just be a

sweet line.


Would you suggest an older version?


Also I now have a new graphic on limewire 4.9 indicating a

firewall detection. I turned off my XP firewall reebooted and

ran limewire again and still the same graphic. I wonder is

this just detecting that there is a firewall available or

does this mean I have another, maybe at my ADSL ISP or modem

itself.

I know my ISP does block a lot of sites but wouldn't that

just mean no access not slow access?

My limewire is the basic not pro by the way but I get all

green bars lit.


I wonder if anybody could provide me with an average KB/s

that they experience using a DSL connection, I have 512 ADSL

connection, would be handy for me to benchmark against

typical download speeds in Limewire.

Using this bandwith test site:
http://www.info-techs.com/speedtest50.html

I get this result repeateadly:

"Your line speed:

4080 Kbps


500 K bytes/sec"

The connection is a bit jerky being I am in Thailand and

connections are usually cranky, but a drop of that much just

doesn't seem right.

Also when I downloaded the later version of limewire 4.9 the

download speed ranged from 57 - 96 to download that program.

The media files I try to down load have never exceeded 20,

average now about 4 - 6 KB/s.


I have tried experimenting with the speeds/tools/options in

limewire but no difference.


Any ideas on next steps from here?

TIA

moziman


PS. Please read my earlier post for all the connection

solutions I have already tried.

PPS. My spyware nuker detects two registry additions since

downloading limewire, name "Kazaa" and listed as "Bundles

adware programs and reinstalls then after they have been

removed" deleting them does nothing as they reinstall on

loading limewire, im guessing they are necessary and are

resposible for reinstalling the .limewire pref after I delete

it.
One more quicky have google exelerator beta version running.

Grandpa August 28th, 2005 09:32 AM

#1 you are not the first one that has said the the thing about Kazza have you had Kazza before. I have been running LW for years and Kazza has never been associated with installing LW on my computer. I ran 2 spyware apps after reading your post and nothing I then manually searched my reg again nothing. Could you post where in the reg your spyware says it is located. The first thing I would suggest is to DL WinMX and see what kind of speeds you get with it . I am not recommending WinMx it really is not a very good but I have never been able to find any spyware associated with it and it is free. I just want to see if you are being filtered.

As far as what speeds you should be seeing my connection speed test similar to you I am a little faster. On individual files with 8 to 10 connections they will vary from 5kb to 150kb depending on the people who I am receiving from.

A good way to test is find a popular artist that has 20 files that are 4* and with 4 to 20 or more host for each file, click on the first 20 files and see what your speed is mine will usually be 550+

moziman August 29th, 2005 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa
#1 you are not the first one that has said the the thing about Kazza have you had Kazza before. I have been running LW for years and Kazza has never been associated with installing LW on my computer. I ran 2 spyware apps after reading your post and nothing I then manually searched my reg again nothing. Could you post where in the reg your spyware says it is located. The first thing I would suggest is to DL WinMX and see what kind of speeds you get with it . I am not recommending WinMx it really is not a very good but I have never been able to find any spyware associated with it and it is free. I just want to see if you are being filtered.

As far as what speeds you should be seeing my connection speed test similar to you I am a little faster. On individual files with 8 to 10 connections they will vary from 5kb to 150kb depending on the people who I am receiving from.

A good way to test is find a popular artist that has 20 files that are 4* and with 4 to 20 or more host for each file, click on the first 20 files and see what your speed is mine will usually be 550+

Hi Grandpa,

Thanks for your help so far.

Ok first thing, this is all the info I can get on my spyware nuker utility the alerts info now past the point of the kaza install:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RegisteryKey Desc = HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Magnet

RegisteryKey Desc = HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\magnet



RegisteryKey$SeCURITY_ATTRIBUTES.class coms/ms/wfc/app

RegisteryKey.class coms/ms/wfc/app


Version: 3.3.17.2
Definition Database Date: 3/18/2005 10:34:41 AM
OS version: Windows XP 5.1.2600 [Service Pack 2]
Web Browser Version: IE:6.0.2900.2180;
Date/Time: 08/29/2005 13:17:41


Kazaa - Bundleware 953 Bundles adware programs and reinstalls them after they have been removed.
Registry Key 55546 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\magnet
Registry Key 55570 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Magnet
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Since I have now updated from limewire source (im guessing) to the newer version limewire not from the reseller site do you want me to delete them to get the alert results? they might not come back if it was the reseller that attatched them. The original site was http://onlinemovieaccess.com/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Second part I downloaded WinMX and TEST ran 2 X about 1pm Thai time.

First message:

"This computer is unable to recieve incoming TCP connections from the internet, and there is nothing we can do about it."

Says is not required and will still be able to up and download just larger search results.

TCP 6699 UDP 6257

Did as you said and clicked first 20 files of popular artist in winmx and highest I saw was 8,855 bytes p/s down to 623 at the slowest.
Most files have gone red 5 green and look to be downloading, maybe not the best time of day for the test, I will try again evening.

I did the same test on limewire with the same artist got up to 35 KB/s at one point, drifting about widly but I would gauge an average of 15 KB/s, just checked again and seems to now be holding over 20 most of the time. Is that good? better than before for sure and obviously down to my downloading method but I still can't see how you could download a movie (for example) like that, would take days surely?

Anyway a bit wiser thanks to your help Grandpa and let me know if you want any more info or test done regarding this Kaza reg thing. I wont touch it until you say so. Can see the next problem will be removing it permenantly! just out of curiousty do you know if Kaza would be responsible for that invasion on my computer, legally I mean? Can I complain to anyone, there must be a way to stop these practices if the companies adding all this spyware are legitimate companies, I get about 5-10 cookies a day for monitoring my surfing habits.

Thanks again,

moziman

moziman August 29th, 2005 01:05 AM

Sorry forgot to mention never had kaza..
 
Not only have I never had Kaza, my operating system is about 3 weeks old now from a completly clean reinstall of XP sp2 from my old win98, decided time was right to start over given XP has had some time to bug fix. All my old files were deleted.

moziman

Just checked and my nuker backs up and allows restore, checked my limewire files and the earliest modified date was 25th this month, I think that is when I DL'd the original version from the reseller, as an experiment I could delete the kaza reg entries then restore the nuke files from that date and see if they reapear, guess that would prove it one way or the other.

banmicrosofttoo August 29th, 2005 01:59 AM

speed either has to do with you or the people you're downloading from.

Grandpa August 29th, 2005 07:58 PM

Unfortunately I am away from home right now to check my registry. I believe you should go ahead and delete the Kazza bundleware it prob ally came from the original version you got they probably attached it to the LimeWire installer. I do recall the Magnet folder in my registry but Kazza was not in them. When I get back home I will check again my guess is you will have to manually delete them from your reg.

moziman August 30th, 2005 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa
Unfortunately I am away from home right now to check my registry. I believe you should go ahead and delete the Kazza bundleware it prob ally came from the original version you got they probably attached it to the LimeWire installer. I do recall the Magnet folder in my registry but Kazza was not in them. When I get back home I will check again my guess is you will have to manually delete them from your reg.
Just quickly, deleted the Kazza bundleware then reran limewire checked again and they reappeared, tried a few times and same result, only reapear with limewire, even after installing the later version.

Will post more another time gotta go to bed.

moziman

Grandpa September 3rd, 2005 12:06 AM

Checked my registry there is no kazza bundleware I downloaded Nuker And Etrust , Nuker showed the results you pasted above which I know is false because I searched my registry before and after I did the scan. I then read the reviews on them PC magazine gives Etrust a 1 out of 5 and is not recommended by them it has allot of problems. I could only find one review for Nuker it was from 2spyware.com they gave it a 1 1/2 out of 5 not recommended. I then scanned with Microsoft anti spyware found nothing , Spyware Doctor found nothing , and these are 2 of the highest rated spyware detectors on the market both 5 out of 5 , I also scanned with webroot spysweeper and nothing. Also scanned wit xoftspy it did detect Limewire as Adware I was actually impressed with the xoftspy. It detected the adware in the LimeWire basic installer that is in my download file and it also detected the BearShare installer neither of which are installed on my machine.The Pop up in basic is adware so technically it was right. Anyway I wouldn't worry about the Kazza thing it is a false positive from your spyware detectors.

Sgt September 3rd, 2005 11:43 AM

Hi Guys

Sorry I've been away but I've got monitor problems, Also When Somebody Asks me to get their computer back up and running after Katrina, And He's In The USA, And I'm In Scotland, that to me, takes prefrance.

Sgt September 3rd, 2005 11:50 AM

Hi

Have you thought about what your running when trying to download

Most Modems Today Take Their Power from the CPU, IF your trying to do a lot of diffrent tasks at the same time, It affects the speed of your modem


Sgt

moziman September 3rd, 2005 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa
Checked my registry there is no kazza bundleware I downloaded Nuker And Etrust , Nuker showed the results you pasted above which I know is false because I searched my registry before and after I did the scan. I then read the reviews on them PC magazine gives Etrust a 1 out of 5 and is not recommended by them it has allot of problems. I could only find one review for Nuker it was from 2spyware.com they gave it a 1 1/2 out of 5 not recommended. I then scanned with Microsoft anti spyware found nothing , Spyware Doctor found nothing , and these are 2 of the highest rated spyware detectors on the market both 5 out of 5 , I also scanned with webroot spysweeper and nothing. Also scanned wit xoftspy it did detect Limewire as Adware I was actually impressed with the xoftspy. It detected the adware in the LimeWire basic installer that is in my download file and it also detected the BearShare installer neither of which are installed on my machine.The Pop up in basic is adware so technically it was right. Anyway I wouldn't worry about the Kazza thing it is a false positive from your spyware detectors.
Hi Grandpa,

Certainly did your homework on that one and thanks for that.
I previously thought that the kazza was only reinstalling after I re ran limewire, partly true it does but it also reapears after I reboot but if it's nothing no probs and I guess that must be the same for the others you mentioned that saw the kazza bundlware.

I have just found out that when accessing international P2P's or any web sites for that matter from Thailand that are international the download speed will always be resticted due to something called CAT. Apparently all international traffic has to go through CAT by Thai law and that basically caps any speed potential you may have unless you are connecting to Thai sites that are held within Thailand, basically if I want international sites it is pointless suscribing to anything over 1 mb in Thailand at this time.

I am currently trying to access a DC++ hub that has been set up within Thailand by ex pats for this very reason that promises to realise my true connection speed but just my luck I have a lame router supplied by TOT that wont allow me "active" access and the site I need requires "active" only, so I can do passive on international sites but same slowmo. I have been advised to go and buy a branded router that will have a much better ADSL configuration package eg UPnp, port forwarding options etc.

Looking on the bright side I have learnt a hell of a lot during the past week in an area of computing I always considered to be a black art, its just annoying that this learning process always seems to = more cash, hopefully soon I will be able to do what I originally wanted when I got stung for $52 dollars by that limewire reseller and download full length movies and English TV,

Just out of curiosity Grandpa who is paying for you to test all these spyware packages, they all cost money right?

Thanks again for your support,

moziman

Grandpa September 3rd, 2005 01:27 PM

Most of the spyware programs offer free trials the ones that I do not already have I go to there sites an download them. The trial versions in most cases will not get rid of the spyware found you have to buy it if you want that feature. Allot of these spyware companies report any traces of any known threat and p2p software as spyware weather it is actually active or not. Kind of a deceptive sales tool it says you have this or that on your computer and you need to buy our software to get rid of it. Personally I would call this a scam.

I see where you paid $52.00 for LimeWire do you realize you have been scammed LimeWire basic is free and LimeWire pro cost $18.88 you might want to follow the advice in the links below.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=4449

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=44345

The link below will take you to the official site

http://www.limewire.com/

As for who pays The senior members here are volunteers and do what we do for the for the rewards of being able to help in what ever way we can. It makes me feel good to help if I can. Sometimes people get mad if we can not help but it doesn't bother me it just irritates me that some people want to blame us or the software for any problem they are having. Seems that some people always need something to blame for problems rather than trying to fix them.

moziman September 3rd, 2005 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa
Most of the spyware programs offer free trials the ones that I do not already have I go to there sites an download them. The trial versions in most cases will not get rid of the spyware found you have to buy it if you want that feature. Allot of these spyware companies report any traces of any known threat and p2p software as spyware weather it is actually active or not. Kind of a deceptive sales tool it says you have this or that on your computer and you need to buy our software to get rid of it. Personally I would call this a scam.

I see where you paid $52.00 for LimeWire do you realize you have been scammed LimeWire basic is free and LimeWire pro cost $18.88 you might want to follow the advice in the links below.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=4449

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=44345

The link below will take you to the official site

http://www.limewire.com/

As for who pays The senior members here are volunteers and do what we do for the for the rewards of being able to help in what ever way we can. It makes me feel good to help if I can. Sometimes people get mad if we can not help but it doesn't bother me it just irritates me that some people want to blame us or the software for any problem they are having. Seems that some people always need something to blame for problems rather than trying to fix them.


Hi Grandpa,

Yes I know I got scammed good and proper, I was following links that promised movie downloads, seemed that $52 dollars was about right for a movie download site, assumed it meant copyright movies and not a bog standard P2P, Doh! Well im sure im not the first and explains why so many pissy posts I guess, the www has turned into one big scam as far as I can see, very sad when I saw so much promise from the early days of the old BBs where it was just types like you and i creating a non regulated file share enviroment, christ what happened?!!! just con after con I really pity non computer literate newbies like our granparents trying to come to grips with it all, minefield! I have been out of the loop for a few years due to emigration and makes me sick to see the corperate mess they made of the utopian dream, a sick perversion. Money money money where will it end? I can't even surf for a few hours without cookie crap invading my system, what can I do?who can I complain to? no one!

ON the up side there is a whole bunch of stuff I can do that I couldn't before so I can see some progress but I have grave doubts about the future of this meduim, hope i'm wrong and it seems like the P2P's are just about escaping the garbage for now, funny though that it requires no fancy grahics/flash, really just like ten years ago, people to people.

Anyway like I said learning experience and you have to be in it to win it, blatantly.

Thanks again for all your support Grandpa,

moziman

IanBradley September 5th, 2005 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by banmicrosofttoo
no problems here. i just opened the ports on the firewall and i've had fast downloads. its either you're downloading from slow sources, or you're having issues with the firewall.
Ok i need to know,if the above statement is true ,why then does limewire pro claim "Turbo-charged download speeds"?

Grandpa September 5th, 2005 11:18 AM

Because with lime wire pro in leaf mode you get 5 connections instead of 4 thus better search results and more sources to download from. You also are allowed 10 sources to download from instead of 8 you get with basic. If you are on Dial up or a slow connection it will not increase your download speed.


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